Tag Archive: Sand Hill

To Be or Not To Be A Sand Hill!!

I’ve never laughed as hard as I did when reading the diary “The Truth about Holloway’s Sand Hill Motives”.  Of all the diaries/comments ever written regarding the Sand Hill Lawsuit, this one’s the most humorous.  Whenever I tried to type a response I couldn’t, because I’d begin laughing hysterically.

What makes someone a member of a tribe when not raised with the tribe- I don’t know of one North American tribe where they don’t have tribal members scattered throughout the continent.  Some Native American children are raised in non-indian homes by their non-indian parent and are exposed to their Native American heritage when visiting with their Native Parent and tribal family members.  If Ron Holloway is not a Sand Hill because his mother was a Jewish (religion)  woman, and even though he was taught the ancestral traditions, culture and history of the Sand Hill by his kitchuwah father (who was raised by a very traditional Sand Hill mother) and other family members, then Pontiton has a problem.

The Ramapoughs are 99% Christian and very, very inter-racial.  They don’t know how to speak Lenape; don’t know their ancestral religion, traditions.  Therefore based upon Pontiton’s thinking- they can’t possibly be Ramapough, because 99% are Christian, raised with no traditions, language, or native religion, most of the organizations’ members are raised away from Stag Hill-so therefore they can’t be members of the 5013c organization because most of them don’t live on the mountain-  OMG they even have people claiming to be Ramapough living in Texas (& other states) away from the tribe.    Then, according to Pontiton’s thinking, one must conclude that there are no Ramapough and therefore who is this person claiming to be Ramapough and what planet has Pontiton come from?  Oh, Pontiton, I guess that makes you Irish!

Regarding the comment about Federal recognition; supervised vs. unsupervised; and whether that means the Federal Government recognizes the tribe as a sovereign Nation or not.  Being unsupervised means that the tribe does not receive Federal benefits and DOES NOT appear on the BIA list of recognized Tribes receiving benefits- because that’s what that list really means.  It doesn’t mean that those tribes who aren’t on the list are not recognized by the U.S. Government as sovereign- but rather they are not on the list because they are not receiving funds. Recognition is established by a working relationship with the Federal Government and because the Sand Hill Tribe that Hollway belongs to works with the Federal Government on numerous task forces (Dept. of Interior, Home Land security, Dept. of Energy, Veterans Administration) on an ongoing, continuous basis and that the NJ Sand Hill Band of Lenape and Cherokee Indians are consulted and worked with– Therefore they are a recognized Tribe by the Federal government because they work Government to Government.  If Pontiton is saying that the Federal Government has no idea who they are dealing with, that all these departments never looked into the Tribe’s background, and that these Sand Hills are Frauds- then again-I must ask- what planet does he/she come from?

Therefore if Pontiton really understood the subtleties of Tribal recognition with the Federal Government  he/she would realize how ludicrous his/her comments were.

Regarding Medicine Crow.  In all the time that I have known Medicine Crow he has never stated and/or represented himself as a Shaman – He has represented himself as a Raiki Master-  Raiki Master is not a Shaman.  It has nothing to do with Shamanism. Obviously Pontiton doesn’t understand the difference.  

However, talking about Shaman’s – Heard a rumor that the Chief of the Ramapoughs considers himself a Shaman- knowing the Ramapoughs – who taught him?  

Addressing Sam Beeler and the web sites that were mentioned- one is a blog and subject to anyone’s input; the other is “www. Cherokee Nation.com” which is a news/blog site and immediately lists the following disclaimer (second thru fourth sentences are very interesting, as well as the last two sentences)-

“The Cherokee Nation maintains this server to enhance public access to Cherokee Nation information. Cherokee Nation provides no warranty, expressed or implied, as to the accuracy, reliability or completeness of furnished data.

Only public information will be maintained on the Cherokee Nation home page or made accessible through links to other web pages. We strongly recommend that Cherokee Nation data be acquired directly from a Cherokee Nation server and not through other sources that may change the data in some way. Use external links only when there is a direct relationship between the program coverage of the Cherokee Nation home page and the material to which it links.

This site contains live references (or pointers) to information created and maintained by other organizations including plug-in downloads used to view various content on the Cherokee Nation web site. Please note that Cherokee Nation does not control, endorse, and cannot guarantee the relevance, timeliness, or accuracy of these outside materials or plug-in downloads. We cannot guarantee the safety of your personal computer from visiting or Downloading from sites outside of cherokee.org…. “

Reminds me of Wikipedia- anyone can input information at any time and the information on Wikipedia is questionable as to the accuracy because people are constantly rewriting information. Wikipedia can actually state that the holocaust never happened- it’s just a matter of rewriting history and anyone can do it.  It has been done so many times regarding the Native American History in New Jersey that only the Federal Government and a few others know who is who because some knuckleheads are trying to rewrite the State’s history.

Reality check- If anyone calls/writes the Federally recognized Cherokee tribes and asks if they know so and so- the response will be “no, we are not familiar with that name, etc.”.  Unless a person speaks with a member of the Tribal Council and/or Council of Elders, (you must actually know a member of the either council to be able to do so), no one will be given any information as to whether or not the Cherokee Federal Tribes know of another person or tribe.  The answer will always be” no” because the Cherokee at the other end has no idea who the hell the person is that they are talking/writing to and will not get involved in something that could lead them into a lawsuit.  

Obviously Pontiton doesn’t understand how the Federal tribes react and/or work when dealing with people inquiring over the phone/letter about people and/or tribes.  Also, the answers that Pontiton is referring to that are all over the internet allegedly appear to be written by members of the Ramapough & Nanticoke organizations and/or people affiliated with them.

However, what Pontiton fails to mention is the fact that Ronald Holloway and Chief Beeler’s genealogy has already been posted and is beyond reproach.  More than 50% of Sand Hill tribal members are Reevey, Richardson, and their Chief Justice/lead Council, Arleen Richards, is Chief Crummel’s great grand-daughter and her mother is his grand-daughter. Not to mention all the other cousins, sister and family members- surely the entire tribe can’t be wrong as to who they are?  Also DNA tied to the oldest skeletal remains ever found in NJ also carries considerable weight in a court of law.  Pontiton forgets to mention for the reader’s benefit that Holloway and Beeler’s DNA match the DNA of the skeleton- making them the descendants of the original indigenous people living in NJ more than 1500-1800 years ago.  Also Pontiton (or advisors) failed to inform readers that the Reevys, Richards, Holloways and Crummels are all inter-related.

Oh my goodness- for shame Pontiton- that he/she forgot that piece of information. Or, obviously he/she doesn’t know Sand Hill genealogy or their history.

Which brings us to the illustrious Indian Commission.  That was where Claire Garland stated that she never knew Sam Beeler (along with a whole host of other Ramapough/Nanticoke) and said that it wasn’t she who was standing next to Sam Beeler in a well published picture.  So who was she standing next to- Michael Jackson? (http://flic.kr/p/5nALrq)

That was also where those who Beeler had helped to obtain their 5013c status said they didn’t know him and that he was never a Chief.

Chief Sam Beeler was hired by the UN to be an “ambassador” to identify all the indigenous peoples by traveling world wide- And to think- If one were to believe what Pontiton wrote-all Chief Beeler had to do was just say that he was Chief of the Sand Hills and ‘lo and behold’ he was hired by the UN!  That Beeler didn’t have to present any documentation or anything to prove who he was.  Nope- the UN just took him at his word- If Pontiton really thinks people will buy the above explanation and that Beeler is a fraud- I ask again- what planet is this person from?

So it appears that Pontiton (or whatever his/her real name is) never answered his/her own statement “The truth about Holloway’s Sand Hill Motives” and I now have a question to ask- Who do you think is going to get the blame for all the problems that caused the lawsuit and the subsequent bill that the taxpayers are going to have to pay?  It isn’t going to be the NJ Sand Hill Band of Lenape & Cherokee Indians, nor former Gov. Corzine, Wells, Milgram, or Gov. Christie?  Who do you think will be thrown under the bus?  

Pontiton please keep writing- Everyone loves the “foot in mouth” disease. I need a good laugh and so do others.

Oh – you would think with all the writers helping Pontiton, they’d get something correct- However they didn’t – so once again for clarification– I am not the Sand Hills lawyer, Chief Crummel’s great granddaughter is- please get your facts straight!!!  

Chief Ross addresses some aspects of Historical Genocide

Promoted because we need to fill in the historical details and let this story be told. – – Thurman Hart (Note: Edited to move some text below the fold)

Osiyo! (Hello), Greetings and Salutations from the Ani-Tsalagi Onaselagi N.Eastern Band. I would like to take this oppurtunity to say “Wadoh/Wanishi” (Thank you) to CarolH and the other bloggers for assisting us via their blogs on getting our story and plight to the forefront. We thank you for your humanity in helping us right the wrongs against us in the blatant attempt to eradicate us from our birth right in the annuals of NJ History!

We, the Sand Hill Band and Ani-Tsalagi Onaselagi N.Eastern Band, have been misled, misdirected, lied to, coddled, cajoled, flamboozled, and manipulated by the NJ Commission of Indian Affairs and the Sec of State to which the commission falls under her purview. The commission’s mandate is quite simple and is as follows:  “To establish and develop programs and projects relating to the cultural, educational and social development of the states (AMERICAN INDIAN COMMUNITIES!).

Nowhere does it say that they have been empowered to do anything further.

It is important to understand that neither the Indian Commission nor the Secretary of State has any legal authority to prevent Native American tribes from being recognized.  The mandate of the Commission was to seek out and locate all Native American Indians who belong to Tribes and/or come from other states and have no band (Tribal group) in NJ.  All Tribes were to be given a seat on the Commission.

 

NJ Historic Genocide Background Docs – Updated

Long before there even was a United States – there was the Brotherton Indian Reservation in what is now Monmouth County.  Just a little history before we get into the backup documents.

Brotherton - the ONLY Indian Reservation in the State of NJ created in 1758 for the Lenape-Cherokee

Fast Forward a few centuries……

October 20, 1989 Proclamation signed by Governor Kean and related documents proving the existence of Cherokee in NJ.

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August 2004 Proclamation honoring the Sand Hill Indians of Monmouth County and related documents.

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December 28, 2006 Letter from Chief Sam Beeler of the Sand Hill Band of Indians (Lenape-Cherokee) one the oldest indigenous tribes still in NJ to the NJ Commission on American Indian Affairs requesting representation on the Commission.

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December 10, 2007 Letter from NJ Indian Office (in existence since 1950) to the NJ Commission on American Indian Affairs telling them that they committed a grave injustice by excluding most of the Native Americans in NJ of Cherokee and Inter-tribal descent.

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January 10, 2008 letter from Chief Ross to Governor Corzine detailing their complaints regarding The NJ Commission on American Indian Affairs and the report that left out the existence of the two oldest tribes in NJ.

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February 13, 2008 letter from Governor Corzine to Chief Ross saying he will stand by the NJ Commission’s (fatally flawed) report.

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February 19, 2008 Letter from Chief Ross to the Commission explaining that Representatives will read a statement into the record at the February 20, 2008 meeting of the Commission.

The statement was read at the meeting, but the minutes DO NOT reflect that such a statement was ever read.

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The most telling letter of the bunch.  This letter proves that Laura Zucker was able to read the statement into the record – even though no statement was recorded in the Official record.  This letter was sent by the CHAIR of the NJ Commission on Indian Affairs – Lewis Pierce (who does not acknowledge that he is also the Chief of the Nanticokes) yet it was sent on Tribal NANTICOKE letterhead.  A clue if ever there was one that one of the newer tribes is anxious to commandeer the commission and make it synonymous with his own tribe.  

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Must-Read response of Chief Ross to Chairman Pierce of the NJ Indian Commission (who just so happens to be Chief of the Nanticokes) regarding his feeble attempt to shift the blame for the historical genocide onto the special committee established by the Governor.

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Left no other choice, the tribes ask an attorney to contact the State in this email correspondence:

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April Press Release

THE NEW JERSEY INDIAN OFFICE

P.O. BOX 1012, Montague, New Jersey 07827

Est. 1950

The Sand Hill Band of Lenape-Delaware- Cherokee Indians are the oldest documented Band Of Delaware Indians indigenous to Lenapehoking, a.k.a. New Jersey.

Our former Chief, James Revey, wrote and submitted a formal proclamation to New Jersey Governor Kean for official New Jersey State acknowledgment and recognition of the oldest historically documented Tribe of New Jersey, the Lenape-Delaware of the Sand Hill Band of Indians.

Governor Kean subsequently signed the proclamation authored by our Chief, James Revey, a.k.a. Lone Bear, at our recreated traditional Lenape-Delaware village in Stanhope, New Jersey. He was not the first to bestow such recognition upon our peoples.

We, the Sand Hill Band of Lenape-Delaware-Cherokee Indians remain the only Tribe in New Jersey officially recognized by Gubernatorial Proclamation.  We boast a tribal citizenry in excess of two thousand and are governed by a pre-U.S. Constitution, sovereign traditional government of Band Council Members, Band Clan Mothers and an elected Chief. Our Cousins, The Ani Tsalagi Onaselagi Northeastern Band (Those Who Separated-Cherokee), a Sovereign Tribe, is also governed by a pre-U.S. Constitution, and have maintained their own culture and sovereign traditional government of Tribal Council Members, Tribal Clan Mothers, Red and White Chiefs, and a hereditary Chief (elected by Tribal Council) and boast a Tribal membership of 2000 Cherokee and Cherokee/Lenape, making our combined numbers at least 4000 strong.  Our members are scattered throughout the area and a majority of us reside in Bergen, Burlington, Monmouth, Passaic, Sussex and Union Counties. Passaic County is the only county in New Jersey with a Lenape name even though all of the State of New Jersey is officially designated ‘Indian Country’ under U. S. Federal Law.

The town of Montague in Sussex County is the tribal headquarters for the Sand Hills and the City of Elizabeth is the tribal headquarters for the Ani Tsalagi Onaselagi Northeastern Band (Those Who Separated-Cherokee). Our tribes are sovereign tribal governments, which receive absolutely NO STATE or FEDERAL funds.

We, the Sand Hill Band of Lenape-Delaware-Cherokee Indians and the Ani Tsalagi Onaselagi Northeastern Band (Those Who Separated-Cherokee) are the oldest continuous uninterrupted Delaware/Cherokee tribal governments who are indigenous to New Jersey and have never been contacted by any office of the State of New Jersey for any type of assistance.

Therefore, WE ARE NOW DEMANDING an investigation into all matters addressed in our letter to Sen. Codey and (emailed) cc-d to all Senators, Assemblymen/women; some New Jersey US Congressmen and Senators, to do an immediate investigation to find out what Federal and State Native American Monies were received by the State of New Jersey and why was it only allocated to the Ramapough Lenape Indian Nation, the Nanticoke of Maryland-Delaware, and the Powhatan Rappahannock of Virginia- What happened to and where did the monies for the Sand Hill Band of Lenape-Delaware-Cherokee Indians and the Ani Tsalagi Onaselagi Northeastern Band (Those Who Separated-Cherokee) go? Why was a Commission permitted to remove a Tribal designation that only the State Legislature can grant and/or take away? What has been the role of the Secretary of State?  What will their actions cost the State of New Jersey.

Understand that WE have retained legal counsel.

Be advised that Chief Holloway will be speaking for the Chiefs and Tribes involved.  If you have any questions and/or wish to speak with Chief Holloway of the Sand Hill Band of Indians, please contact Laura I. Zucker and she will arrange a discussion between reporters and Chief Holloway

Thank you- Laura I. Zucker (for Chief Dr. Carroll Medicine Crow, the Sand Hill Band of Lenape-Delaware-Cherokee Indians and Chief Darius J. Two Bears Ross, the Ani Tsalagi Onaselagi Northeastern Band (Those Who Separated-Cherokee)

May 6, 2008 Letter from the NJ Indian Office to Codey giving the state yet another chance to correct this awful mistake. This letter also comes up with a possible motive for this whole story – $$$

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Letter from Chief Holloway to a group representing themselves as the Sand Hill Historical Society without permission of the Sand Hill Band of Indians.  

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I have more info on Flickr – such as Sand Hill Tribal Census data from 2007.  The Tribal Councils and Chiefs know who belongs to the tribes.  It is a pity that the Governor is letting a few bad actors with hidden agendas control the NJ Commission on American Indian Affairs to the point that over HALF of the people the Commission should serve are being not only ignored, but treated as if they never existed.  With that, I will leave you with something written last Thanksgiving by the Tribes who are facing historical genocide, condoned by our own Secretary of State.

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Historical Genocide Continued

As one of the people involved in this fiasco between the State vs. The Sand Hill Band of Indians and the Ani Tsalagi Onaselagi Northeastern Band, I need to make a correction.  On August 8, 2007, a War Chief of the Ani Tsalagi Onaselagi Northeastern Band and I went to the South Orange PAC to meet with Governor Corzine, who knows Chief Ross. He has met the chief at functions and, believe it or not, shares mutual acquaintances.  Which makes what is happening even more disturbing and despicable.

However, I deviate from the point.  Due to delays and a series of unfortunate occurrences, we were unable to meet with the Governor prior to his addressing the audience that evening.  At the time, we thought nothing of the delay and our companion who was accompanying us, went to speak briefly to Corzine about our failed meeting at that time, and was told by the Governor, himself, to call to make an appointment as quickly as possible to speak with him regarding the urgent matter Chief Ross wished to address with him.

What happened next was like Alice falling down the rabbit hole.  We never were able to make an appointment.  As a matter of fact, at one point (must have been our fourth call to the Governor’s office), the person who answered the phone literally left the phone on her desk and forgot to put it on hold.  I never heard her walk away and it appeared that she was just sitting at her desk for a few minutes (I could hear everything) and then after a few moments picked up the phone and had the audacity to say that “such and such was in a meeting and would call me back”.  That never happened and we didn’t call back.

On Feb.20, 2008, not on Aug. 8, 2007, I read Chief Ross’s complaints into the public record at the Commission meeting.  Their March minutes do not reflect that the report was read into public record, though a commissioner did comment (in those minutes) as to whether there was any further communication to a letter that the Chair had written to Chief Ross in response.  The Chair said no, even though a letter dated March 6, 2008 had been sent to him by Chief Ross in response to the Chair’s letter approximately two weeks earlier, cc’ d to the Governor, Secretary of State, Sen. Codey, Senators Weinberg and Rice, and Commissioners on Native American Affairs.  

One can ask a thousand times why is this happening and no one seems to be able to give an answer.  One reason may be that when Chief Ross and I met with the Secretary of State she realized that she had a ?fraudulent? report. Chief Ross had given to her a packet of historical information pertaining to the two tribes and he and I brought to her attention the misplacing of over 30,000 Native Americans within the report.  Rather than going to the Governor and saying that there was a problem with the report and they needed to look into matters, she decided to do, what can only be considered to be a “cover-up”, and hoped that we would go away.  She seemed to have forgotten that her major job is to protect the State of NJ and the Governor at all times from potential problems.  Instead she has subjected NJ to untold lawsuits that will affect our taxes by acting as if nothing unforetold is wrong.

OR we can say, as Carolh has implied in her diary, is that the one third does not want the two thirds recognized because of the power they would have, which is crazy.  You are only allowed two seats on the commission- so these two tribes would still be outnumbered.  We know that the Commission’s minutes are incomplete and inaccurate because they left out correspondence from Senator Weinberg and us into certain matters.  We know because we OPRA’d the minutes-

OR- we can say that there is something horrific going on when you are trying to remove 2/3 of a population from the annuals of history.  In the report that another blogger referred to and questioned, it has left out the Sand Hill Band of Indians and the Cherokee (Ani Tsalagi Onaselagi NE Band) because the Nanticokes and the Powhatans have borrowed that history and are trying to claim it as their own.  That is why there is no mention of these two tribes.

When a group of people are trying to remove the historical existence of another group, with the blessing of the Government in charge of that state and/or country, it is not difficult to remove that group when writing a report so that if the group (that has been removed) tried to claim their existence, they can’t.  There is no record of them.  Then when people read it, they say, “but if they existed these people would be in the report.”  Remember they are trying to remove them from history.  Therefore, they wont be in the report to begin with and that’s the problem!  The 30,000 plus Native Americans exist in this state.  If they correct the number, then they have to acknowledge the existence of the two other tribes.  So everyone who is in power has turned a blind eye and agrees with the figure of 19,000+.

To me, the actions of the Secretary of State and the Governor over the last 12 months are very questionable.  The Secretary of State knows that the report is fraudulent or she would have had she been intelligent enough to temporarily pull the report, investigate all facts entered and left out, and then re-established the report in an amended version.  Instead she failed to investigate the request of citizens to look into the matter of the report being inaccurate. In my opinion, she has committed an act of malfeasance.  The Governor and the Secretary of State’s actions by going along with this adaptation of history borders on moral turpitude and has opened NJ to countless lawsuits that will only cause our taxes to go up because the Native Americans will seek justice through the courts.  Their Lawyers’ fees will be nothing like the cost that the State will be paying its lawyers in suits that should never have been forced into court.

All these two tribes are asking is to be included, just like the Secretary of State said she would do, but seems to be suffering from selective amnesia because that’s the only logical explanation I can come up with at this time.

OR– someone somewhere has done something so illegal and has someway and/or somehow directly or indirectly involved the Governor and the Secretary of State, that they need to cover it up and can only do so if these two tribes are non-existent or lack creditability.  It has been said that if the Sand Hill Band of Indians ever came to any of these tribes, that those tribes would be in trouble, because the Sand Hill Band of Indians know where the skeletons are buried.

It looks like those skeletons are about to be dug up.  However, why is the Governor and the Secretary of State doing it at the expense of all (Native and Non-Native) NJ citizens?  How do they profit from the destruction of Native American populations and what will they be receiving for it?

Why else would they agree to remove 30,000 plus people from the State’s history, when they are clearly in the Census of the United States?

NOTE: In September 2007, after 25 years, the United Nations passed a resolution recognizing the rights of Indigenous peoples throughout the world.  Out of all the member Countries, eleven countries abstained and 4 countries voted No.  They were the U.S., Canada, New Zealand, and Australia.   In January 2008, Australia officially apologized to their Indigenous people.  In April/May of 2008, Canada also made a promise to work more closely with their indigenous people.  The U.S., which claims to be the melting pot of the world, is more concerned with the problems between China and the Tibetan people, then they are in upholding the rights of their own indigenous people.  

MMM- Maybe Corzine and Wells are taking lessons!