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24-Bill Gun Package in Assembly – @BlueJersey will live-Tweet

Here are some tools to follow along with the discussion today in the NJ Assembly on an audacious package of gun safety bills proposed by Democrats:

Follow our live-Tweeting coverage of the gun safety hearing in Assembly Law & Public safety – click @BlueJersey.

Follow hashtag #NJSafeGuns and hashtag #NJGunSafety.

Listen Live here to proceedings in the Assembly Law & Public Safety Committee. Hearing is scheduled to begin 10am, but may begin late. Keep refreshing the page until “pending” becomes “listen”. You will need Windows Media Player, and there’s a free download at the bottom of the Legislature’s media page, linked above.

Read more here about the gun safety initiatives proposed today by the Democrats.

Bills are listed here.

Hat/tip Deciminyan for the live-Tweeting.

Source: NJ NRA opposes banning people on terrorist watch lists from having guns

Before the debate over guns even begins in the NJ Legislature, groups including the NJ Association of Rifle and Pistol Clubs, which touts itself as the “Official NRA State Association” are already lining up in opposition to what legislators consider common sense gun violence prevention measures. Lets see some of what we hear they oppose according to sources:

  • (A588) Banning ammunition that penetrates body armor.

  • (A1329) High capacity magazine ban (current limit is 15 bullets, would decrease to 10)

  • (A1387) Expands gun-free zones near schools

  • (A3510) Safety training requirements for gun owners

  • (A3687) Disqualifies people on federal terrorist watch list from getting firearms

  • (A3754) Allows Law Enforcement to seize firearm if mental health professional determines user poses a credible threat to themselves or others.
  • But the list doesn’t end there, because sources say they oppose the majority of the proposals up for consideration. Apparently the gun groups are worried about a secret list from the government. And that’s why we can’t prevent people from the terror watch list from getting guns. Makes sense, right?

    For their part, the Assembly Democrats put out this video with Legislators speaking about what they are actually proposing and thinking:

    You can see the full board list of bills up for consideration here.

    Senator Barbara Buono on Gun Violence

    Addressing yesterday’s rally to prevent gun violence, Senator Barbara Buono talked about the causes of the problem and a path toward saner gun laws. Following that, she tells us about her call for a special day in the legislature to address the issue.

    If you missed Blue Jersey’s recent interview with Senator Buono, you can find it at this link.

    NJ’s Longest Serving Sheriff On Armed Teachers In Schools: “It’s Asinine”

    The longest serving Sheriff in New Jersey, Ralph Froehlich of Union County has weighed in on the current debate over guns and he didn’t mince words:

    “I am looking for a reasonable approach to gun safety. Shame on us when we emphasize the need to have dangerous assault weapons,” Froehlich told The Huffington Post Monday afternoon. “It is a killing weapon for war. Those poor little souls in Connecticut, some would still be alive if it wasn’t for a 30-round magazine. With a 30-round magazine you spray, you don’t aim. The people trying to escape did not have a chance. It’s stupid, it’s stupid.”

    But he wasn’t done there:

    Froehlich also slammed proposals that have been sweeping through state Legislatures around the country to allow teachers to carry guns in order to fight back against mass murderers in schools. He said a series of problems exist with the issue, including the need to decide which type of gun to provide teachers, the need for twice-yearly certification classes and the role of a teacher. He praised the teachers in Connecticut for their actions.

    “They are not there to carry a gun; that is not the teacher’s function,” he said. “It’s asinine.”

    Froehlich is scheduled to join the Mayors of Fanwood and Roselle, with other members of the group Mayors Against Illegal Guns lobbying on Capitol Hill on Wednesday for increased gun control.

    Cory Booker slams “false debate” over guns on This Week

    Newark Mayor Cory Booker appeared as a part of a panel discussing guns on This Week with George Stephanopoulos this morning. Check out this video of him calling out the “false debate” that is currently going on and let us know your thoughts in the comments section:

    Meanwhile, on Meet the Press, the CEO of the NRA refused to concede any new regulations to help with the gun problem. You can catch his full interview below the fold.  Let us know what you think of the ongoing debate, is Mayor Booker right and what does it all mean? Will anything get done to make change?

    New Jersey Gun Laws: We Can Do Better

    New Jersey can and should do more to strengthen its gun laws. We can not dictate to surrounding states where the laws are more lax, and we can only urge our congressmen to advocate for better national regulations. However, in our own state where we already have some good laws, we should add several new ones.

    According to the Brady Foundation Scorecard of State Rankings for Gun Control Laws (0 to 100)  we can be proud that we are ranked second (72). California leads the way (81). Our neighboring states fare not so well: New York (62), Connecticut (58), Pennsylvania (26) and Delaware (13). Of course even the strongest California laws pale in comparison with stricter regulations in Europe where the per cent of the population owning guns is far lower.

    Following the Newtown school massacre Governor Christie refused to address gun control issues and instead reduced the matter to a gross oversimplification, saying, “Bad people do bad things.” In the wake of the shooting in Aurora, Colo., Gov. Chris Christie said, “New Jersey’s gun laws are sufficient.” They are not and we can do better.

    Below are categories of gun laws in which our state does not meet Brady standards and for which new legislation should be considered:

  •  We do not require background checks on all fireams (only handguns).
  •  We have not closed the gun show loophole nor required background checks on long guns at gun shows.

  •  We do not require safety training/testing for gun purchasers.

  •  We do not require a license to possess all firearms.  

  •  We do not require ammunition purchaser records be kept nor vendors licensed.

  •  We do not ban purchase of large capacity magazines of more  than 10 rounds (only more than 15 rounds.)

    It’s time to stand up against the National Rifle Association lobby. We can do more. We must do more.

  • Garrettown- Mass Murder Capital of the USA

    In reality, we can pick one of a number of New Jersey Republican Congressmen, especially over the past few years with many lockstep votes, but Scott Garrett has the most consistent voting pattern when it comes to policies that favor environments like the Aurora movie theater massacre, the Sikh temple mass murder in Wisconsin, the Oregon mall murders, the should-be-unfathomable murder of more than 20 elementary schoolchildren, along with teachers and other school officials and the shooting in an Alabama hospital over the past few weeks.

    To those who think that this is not the time, they are right.  It is long past time.  To those who think that it isn’t fair to point fingers at Congressmen, voting records, like elections, have consequences.  And Scott Garrett has made it easier for all of these massacres to occur, as well as the ones that preceded them – not to mention those that have yet to occur, but most certainly will occur.

    As Bill Orr noted this morning, NJ has decent gun laws as compared to other states, but they fall far short of what they could be.  Scott Garrett, however, might as well be for terrorists being able to stock up on as many of whatever mass killing machine they want without anyone so much as looking into whether they are highly likely to use it to commit mass murder.

    His voting record, as noted here, is pretty much a checklist of the biggest factors that can lead to a culture that consists of mass murder after mass murder – and in public places that you, me, kids, families – are all very likely to frequent on a regular basis.  It is no different from living in any country where “terrorism”, bus bombings, suicide bombings or any other mass public murder takes place far too regularly.  This list includes allowing someone to carry a concealed weapon into NJ (even though NJ doesn’t allow it) if they are allowed to carry a concealed weapon in that state, loosening restrictions on interstate gun purchases, banning a gun registration and trigger lock law in Washington DC (even though he always argues against federal overreach to states) and allowing loaded guns in national parks.  He even voted against including those who are on terror watch lists, pedophiles, stalkers and those who have committed domestic violence from the lax concealed carry laws he supported.

    Couple that with Garrett’s vote, for example, on mental health parity with physical illness or how he voted against first responders like those who acted on 9/11 and you have you have a caustic mix of dangerous factors, ignored warning signs, lack of ability to spot and deal with a mental health issue properly and where someone who is a clear and present danger to themselves, their family or society as a whole can  go on a massive killing spree without getting detected until “no one could have known” except for all of the clear warning signs.

    Voters across Garrett’s district, as well as other voters in NJ and across the country have a right to know what their Representatives are voting for in their names.  The votes have consequences, and in Garrettown, USA, those consequences are a deadly epidemic.

    Obama & Romney: Bad Schools Cause Gun Violence

    Reposted from Jersey Jazzman

    Via digby (who else?), here is what the two major party candidates in the last presidential election said we should do about gun violence (all emphases mine):

    CROWLEY: Governor Romney, the question is about assault weapons, AK-47s.

    ROMNEY: Yeah, I’m not in favor of new pieces of legislation on – on guns and taking guns away or making certain guns illegal. We, of course, don’t want to have automatic weapons, and that’s already illegal in this country to have automatic weapons. What I believe is we have to do, as the president mentioned towards the end of his remarks there, which is to make enormous efforts to enforce the gun laws that we have, and to change the culture of violence that we have.

    And you ask how – how are we going to do that? And there are a number of things. He mentioned good schools. I totally agree. We were able to drive our schools to be number one in the nation in my state. And I believe if we do a better job in education, we’ll – we’ll give people the – the hope and opportunity they deserve and perhaps less violence from that. But let me mention another thing. And that is parents. We need moms and dads, helping to raise kids. Wherever possible the – the benefit of having two parents in the home, and that’s not always possible. A lot of great single moms, single dads. But gosh to tell our kids that before they have babies, they ought to think about getting married to someone, that’s a great idea.

    […]

    THIS: Rush Holt statement on CT school shooting

    Congressman Rush Holt on this morning’s school shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut:

    “We can’t just keep saying, ‘Our hearts ache for the victims and their families.’  We have to bring gun violence under control.

    “Of course we are all horrified by today’s violence in Connecticut.   Such tragedies are always senseless, but it is especially sickening to see gunfire turned against children in a place of learning.

    “Yet it is not enough to feel sickened.  In the aftermath of these horrific events, there will, as always, be those who will warn us against ‘politicizing’ this tragedy by discussing gun safety.  These claims are ideologically motivated, and they are profoundly wrong.

    “When, after a hurricane strikes, we advocate for funding to mitigate future floods, that is not ‘politicizing’ a tragedy.  When, after a terrorist attack, we advocate for better measures to prevent future deaths, that is not ‘politicizing’ a tragedy.  The notion that gun violence is somehow different – that it deserves unique immunity from serious conversation in our political dialogue – is nonsensical.

    “Policymakers have an obligation to respond to problems by finding solutions.  The solution to gun violence is, in part, to address gun safety.  Arguments that deny this fact strike me as illogical or blindly ideological.”

     

    Memo to NJ Gov. Chris Christie:

    Update: Hoboken resident Ryan Lanza ‘in shock’ after learning his brother killed 27, including their mother, today.

    I just want to say to Gov. Chris Christie, before he has a chance to open his mouth, that No – it won’t be “grandstanding” when politicians watching what’s going on in at a Connecticut school right now stand up to talk about the American culture of guns, and keeping kids, and the rest of us, safe from them.

    Got that, Gov. Christie?

    CT School shooting 12/14/12


    AP Photo – Newtown Bee