VOTE ABSENTEE! 10 Minutes to Hack 10,000 Voting Machines

Rotary phone (0.00 / 0)

Voting " in person" is like using a rotary phone in this day and age.

It is sooooooo easy to vote by mail.

My vote is alrady in! Been in for two weeks. A paper ballot that I know will be counted.

The possiblity of fraud is everywhere . I vote this way for the convenience. I can now work for my candidate on election day and not have to drive to some polling place and waste my time in some line.

If anyone is the least bit worried about their vote not being counted , or concerned about some electronic  machine being " played around with" , then you have an option.

I now right now that Obama is winning 1 -0 in New Jersey!

 

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by: firstamend07 @ Sat Oct 18, 2008 at 08:31:14 AM CDT

I have been asking the Essex County Clerk (0.00 / 0)

to post precinct level results inline within 24 hrs.

ECC Chris Durkin told me he favors this.

Sequoia and the NJ division of elections are in bed together, they have taken steps to ensure the NJ law mandating VVPBs was for all intents and purposes null and void.

Short of actually enforcement of the the VVPB law, posting precinct level results is the next step, any obvious errors can easy be noted, like the 1500 more votes on voting machines, than voters signed into the books to vote on election day.

1500 overvotes in Essex County in the June Primary.

I made the image too small to read so it wouldn't blow out the bluejersey page, you can open it in a new window. These numbers are from the Essex County Clerk Chris Durkin.

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by: FogerRox @ Sat Oct 18, 2008 at 10:27:10 AM CDT

Disturbing (0.00 / 0)

We always think of technology as the solution, but what about when it becomes part of the problem.

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by: Jason Springer @ Sat Oct 18, 2008 at 11:51:27 AM CDT

ah, hell ... (0.00 / 0)

I never think of technology as the solution -- it's just a tool.

Hammers can be used to drive nails and build shelter, or they can bash your head in.  It's a question of how well designed and how well used they are that matters.

Computers are no different.

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by: huntsu @ Sat Oct 18, 2008 at 14:13:17 PM CDT

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Huntsu maqkes a good analogy, let me take it a bit further (0.00 / 0)

Lever voting machines and optical scanners are more mature technology.

Optical scanners go back to 1932

http://www.deadmedia.org/notes...

Lever machines 1890's

http://inventors.about.com/lib...

The Intergrated circuit didnt arrive untill after the Moon landings. ANd NJ's Sequoia Advantage machines use the Z-80 or Zilog chip, which dates from the late 1970's.

Remember the # Radio Shack TRS-80 ?  ANd the COmmodore, both from the late 1970's, they both used the Z-80.

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by: FogerRox @ Sat Oct 18, 2008 at 17:19:35 PM CDT

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dear god! (0.00 / 0)

do I remember the Trash-80? I still have nightmares ... when I was a reporter covering the Jurassic, I had a TRS-80 with - get this - an acoustic coupler and a 300 bps modem with which I would file stories by attaching a suction cup to the the mouthpiece of a pay phone. If that's the guts of today's Sequoia, someone needs to be taken out and shot!

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by: denniscmcgrath @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 06:20:17 AM CDT

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county stores (4.00 / 2)

In Camden County you can absentee vote in the convenient county stores in malls and a library.  I'm going Monday.  As a PWD I always thought it was important to vote in person to ensure accessible sights and machines and to combat the shut-in stereotypes, but this year nothing matters more than getting every vote counted.

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by: SeamusNJ @ Sat Oct 18, 2008 at 19:00:11 PM CDT

I'm kind of ambivalent about the.. (0.00 / 0)

whole thing.
To me, if someone has the power/access to remove the mechanical security (which is what I understood had to be done prior to 'hacking the machine in 10 minutes') and then had the ability to install the corrupting software, they probably have the ability to intercept paper ballots too. I mean if you vote absentee, you have no way of knowing if your vote was recieved and/or counted. Do you?
I guess my point is, at a certain level, you have to trust that the government isn't corrupt. The debates seem to be focusing on where that level of trust should occur.
I don't know. As I said, if somebody has access to get to the machines, I'm sure they have access to other areas to excercise their malevolence.

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai

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by: William Weber (WjcW) @ Sun Oct 19, 2008 at 09:01:37 AM CDT

Having said that... (0.00 / 0)

if there is no or little cost impact. I'm not sure why the paper ballot trail can't be instituted either. As I said, I'm ambivalent.

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai

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by: William Weber (WjcW) @ Sun Oct 19, 2008 at 09:03:15 AM CDT

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thanks for the heads up. (0.00 / 0)

I sent my request for absentee ballot in today.  the information on Blue made it very easy.  why take a chance.  Now its 2-0 Obama

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by: sandy23 @ Sun Oct 19, 2008 at 19:52:29 PM CDT