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Bob Ingle: Blinded By Corzine Hate Or Just Dishonest?

by: huntsu

Wed Mar 21, 2007 at 06:57:32 PM EDT



Bob Ingle -- the Trenton Bureau chief for Gannett, their lead political columnist and Friday regular on the Jersey Guys show on 101.5 - has declared war on Jon Corzine.  We're not sure why, but Ingle has decided that Corzine is corrupt and a terrible person and he is out to get him.

The only problem is that, like with his Chris Christie love affair, Ingle has to make up facts out of whole cloth in order to make the case.

In today's blog post Ingle tries to equate Corzine's reaction to receiving subpoena's from Chris Christie in the Christmas Tree investigation to Bush's press conference threats last night regarding the US Attorney kerfluffle.

Why is it when people get elected to high position they assume an air of arrogance? President Bush, under fire on all fronts but lately because of firing prosecutors of what looks like political reasons, says he will make White House aides available to Congress for questioning but only in secret and not under oath. What good is that? When the federal prosecutor in New Jersey, Chris Christie, sprinkled subpoenas on the Legislature and the Governor's Office, Gov. Corzine questioned why Christie just didn't ask for documents without the formal subpoena.

Let's look at these two issues.  Back in February when Corzine received the subpoenas from Christie, here was the immediate reaction:

Anthony Coley, a spokesman for the governor, said that Mr. Corzine's office would comply with the subpoena and that Mr. Corzine had directed Attorney General Stuart Rabner and his own counsel's office to oversee that compliance.

Here's Bush's reaction from last night to the possibility that Congress may issue subpoenas to Karl Rove and Harriet Miers if they do not agree to testify on the record and under oath:

I will oppose any attempts to subpoena White House officials.

Corzine will comply, Bush says - before any subpoenas are issued - that he will fight.  See the difference?  Bob Ingle doesn't!  Why?  This line from Corzine on the day after he got the subpoena:

"The only question I have is, `Why are we doing this?' We'd be more than happy to give this without a subpoena," Corzine said.

For some reason, Ingle thinks it's damning that Corzine would have given Christie whatever he wanted without a subpoena, but Christie had never asked for it.  Corzine is hiding nothing, and is willing to hand over whatever Christie wants. 

Ingle does have a point that Corzine's refusal to talk about his financial connections to Carla Katz is fishy, and is right to bring it up as a potential conflict of interest.  But Corzine also has a point that, assuming he is telling the truth, the relationship was personal and predated his term in office so may be out of bounds.  Either way, however, only the press has been interested in seeking answers and the Governor has the right not to answer questions from the press.  If a subpoena is issued, my guess is that Corzine will comply.

But my guess or Ingle's guess on the Katz conflict issue is immaterial to the Christmas tree investigation or the Bush Fires US Attorneys imbroglio.  Ingle is twisting and spinning and misleading his readers into making connections that are not and have never been there.

Sounds to me like Bob Ingle has a case of Corzine hate, or he's just plain lying to sell newspapers.

huntsu :: Bob Ingle: Blinded By Corzine Hate Or Just Dishonest?
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Blinded By Corzine Hate Or Just Dishonest? (0.00 / 0)
How about both of the above?

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."  (Teddy Roosevelt)

What conflict? (0.00 / 0)
I am having a really hard time understanding the basis for a conflict with Ms. Katz.  Usually money goes to the politician for there to be a conflict.  Can someone explain this to me, real slow.  I think you give too much credit to Ingle in questioning our Governor's ethics on this issue.  Morals, if that is a legitmate political issue, maybe.  Ethics, I don't think so.

Not a conflict per se (0.00 / 0)
The conflict is more on Katz's end.  But the impression left that Corzine showered Katz, a union leader, with cash certainly doesn't smell too good.  Conflict or no conflict.

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Dots that don't connect yet, and may never (0.00 / 0)
All I see is a rich man who's giving in to an old girlfriend to get her off his back.  Half mil is nothing to him. 

The fact she's a union leader is just another dot, and there's nothing yet connecting them.

To be a corrupt politician, Corzine would have to be getting something.  After all this time, no one even has a glimmer of speculation as to what he gains, so how is it corrupt or in conflict on his part?

To think Katz, who isn't even well like by the union presidents, has any unilateral say about anything in the unions is preposterous, at best, perhaps pure insanity to suggest.  If she knows something he doesn't want out and she's blackmailing him, it could be anything from liking to wear pink underwear to being a mafia kingpin (just kidding on both, don't quote me!) ... things there aren't even dots to now to suggest or speculate he's "corrupt"  ... not to say never, but...


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Ethics questioned by others (0.00 / 0)
The CWA Presidents who have openly stated that Corzine was in contact with Katz and that the negotiations were influenced are the people who are quesioning Corzine's ethics. Their goal might be to attack Katz, but they are also accusing Corzine of Collusion.

Corzine must strike back and defend himself or the accusations will continue.



Please show me (0.00 / 0)
Firstamend07, please cite the source that says the CWA presidents state Corzine was in contact with Katz.

Several times now, you've misstated this case, based on the news story I cited reporting CWA prezez saying Katz told them SHE called Corzine but he refused her call.  How is that collusion?  How is that "Corzine was in contact with Katz"?

You keep restating what seems to be misinformation without backing it up.


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he's just plain lying to sell newspapers. (0.00 / 0)
And he is being a "good" republican by creating a local splash to divert the impending tsunami in Washington! A diversion!!

The Governor is being too much of a gentleman. ... but then again, how many people take the 101.5 clowns seriously? My daughter tells me no one does, they're seen as a joke.

Babs

 "don't compare me to the Almighty, compare me to the alternatives." ---Mayor Kevin White


If Ingle is a publican (0.00 / 0)
he's dishonest. GOP and dissemble are synonymous. When a publicans put their hands on a Bible to be sworn in, the Bible catches fire. They are indeed Satan's spawn.
Thank Zeus I'm a Democrat.

Restore democracy and the Constitution for which it stands.

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