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California Supreme Court overturns gay marriage ban

by: Hopeful

Thu May 15, 2008 at 01:24:58 PM EDT


This has no legal force in New Jersey, but the California decision is obviously of great interest to us.  This court is made up of six Republicans and one Democrat. The case was triggered by the famous San Francisco marriages. Yesterday's discussion was interesting, so chime in please.

Updated below the fold with quotes from the decision, available at the LA Times link above as a PDF file.  Basically, the court is saying that the state has already allowed legal same sex relationships, but the "civil unions" are a form of second-class citizenship.

Hopeful :: California Supreme Court overturns gay marriage ban
From the decision.  Italics are their emphasis, Bold is mine.

the legal issue we must resolve is not whether it would be constitutionally permissible under the California Constitution for the state to limit marriage only to opposite-sex couples while denying same-sex couples any opportunity to enter into an official relationship with all or virtually all of the same substantive attributes, but rather whether our state Constitution prohibits the state from establishing a statutory scheme in which both opposite-sex and same-sex couples are granted the right to enter into an officially recognized family relationship that affords all of the significant legal rights and obligations traditionally associated under state law with the institution of marriage, but under which the union of an opposite-sex couple is officially designated a 'marriage' whereas the union of a same-sex couple is officially designated a 'domestic partnership.' The question we must address is whether, under these circumstances, the failure to designate the official relationship of same-sex couples as marriage violates the California Constitution

It also is important to understand at the outset that our task in this proceeding is not to decide whether we believe, as a matter of policy, that the officially recognized relationship of a same-sex couple should be designated a marriage rather thana domestic partnership (or some other term), but instead only to determine whether the difference in the official names of the relationships violates the California Constitution.

As discussed below, upon review of the numerous California decisions that have examined the underlying bases and significance of the constitutional right to marry (and that illuminate why this right has been recognized as one of the basic, inalienable civil rights guaranteed to an individual by the California Constitution), we conclude that, under this state's Constitution, the constitutionally based right to marry properly must be understood to encompass the core set of basic substantive legal rights and attributes traditionally associated with marriage that are so integral to an individual's liberty and personal autonomy that they may not be eliminated or abrogated by the Legislature or by the electorate through the statutory initiative process. These core substantive rights include, most fundamentally, the opportunity of an individual to establish - with the person with whom the individual has chosen to share his or her life - an officially recognized and protected family possessing mutual rights and responsibilities and entitled to the same respect and dignity accorded a union traditionally designated as marriage. As past cases establish, the substantive right of two adults who share a loving relationship to join together to establish an officially recognized family of their own - and, if the couple chooses, to raise children within that family - constitutes a vitally important attribute of the fundamental interest in liberty and personal autonomy that the California Constitution secures to all persons for the benefit of both the individual and society.

Furthermore, in contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation, and, more generally, that an individual's sexual orientation - like a person's race or gender - does not constitute a legitimate basis upon which to deny or withhold legal rights. We therefore conclude that in view of the substance and significance of the fundamental constitutional right to form a family relationship, the California Constitution properly must be interpreted to guarantee this basic civil right to all Californians, whether gay or heterosexual, and to same-sex couples as well as to opposite-sex couples.

A number of factors lead us to this conclusion. First, the exclusion of same-sex couples from the designation of marriage clearly is not necessary in order to afford full protection to all of the rights and benefits that currently are enjoyed by married opposite-sex couples; permitting same-sex couples access to the designation of marriage will not deprive opposite-sex couples of any rights and will not alter the legal framework of the institution of marriage, because same-sex couples who choose to marry will be subject to the same obligations and duties that currently are imposed on married opposite-sex couples. Second, retaining the traditional definition of marriage and affording same-sex couples only a separate and differently named family relationship will, as a realistic matter, impose appreciable harm on same-sex couples and their children, because denying such couples access to the familiar and highly favored designation of marriage is likely to cast doubt on whether the official family relationship of same-sex couples enjoys dignity equal to that of opposite-sex couples. Third, because of the widespread disparagement that gay individuals historically have faced, it is all the more probable that excluding same-sex couples from the legal institution of marriage is likely to be viewed as reflecting an official view that their committed relationships are of lesser stature than the comparable relationships of opposite-sex
couples. Finally, retaining the designation of marriage exclusively for oppositesex couples and providing only a separate and distinct designation for same-sex couples may well have the effect of perpetuating a more general premise - now emphatically rejected by this state - that gay individuals and same-sex couples are in some respects 'second-class citizens' who may, under the law, be treated differently from, and less favorably than, heterosexual individuals or opposite-sex couples. Under these circumstances, we cannot find that retention of the traditional definition of marriage constitutes a compelling state interest. Accordingly, we conclude that to the extent the current California statutory provisions limit marriage to opposite-sex couples, these statutes are unconstitutional.
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Quote from the decision (4.00 / 1)
Furthermore, in contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation, and, more generally, that an individual's sexual orientation - like a person's race or gender - does not constitute a legitimate basis upon which to deny or withhold legal rights. We therefore conclude that in view of the substance and significance of the fundamental constitutional right to form a family relationship, the California Constitution properly must be interpreted to guarantee this basic civil right to all Californians, whether gay or heterosexual, and to same-sex couples as well as to opposite-sex couples.


thanks (0.00 / 0)
I was bolding that very section while you posted it.  I think this is a very important moral decision. I was slow to recognize the importance of marriage itself, so thanks to you and Xpatriated Texan and everyone else.


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a little parsing (0.00 / 0)
First things first:  When you are right, Hopeful, you are right!

I wonder how many people ever would have predicted that Kennard (supposedly the most conservative justice-along the lines of Janice Brown) would join the decision and not even undermine it in her concurrence!

The decision seems to be the mirror version of New Jersey's because none of the justices were opposed to SSM, but the majority questioned whether they could impose it.  But in California four of them voted to do so.

The November vote on the constitutional amendment is going to be very interesting.


well (0.00 / 0)
Marc Ambinder reported that gay rights groups were hopeful, so I just tagged along with the prediction.  :)

It certainly will be interesting in November.    

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it really is a mirror decision (0.00 / 0)
I think you've hit the nail on the head there.  

I would really like our legislature to acknowledge this reasoning and simply enact marriage equality.

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footnote 27 (0.00 / 0)
Comments on New Jersey and other states:

If a comprehensive domestic partnership law had not been enacted in California, and if plaintiffs had brought a constitutional challenge to the California marriage statutes and our court had concluded that those statutes were unconstitutional because they did not afford same-sex couples rights and benefits equal to those available to opposite-sex couples under the marriage statutes, we might well have further concluded - as other state courts have determined in similar situations - that the appropriate disposition would be to direct the Legislature to provide equal treatment to same-sex couples, leaving to the Legislature, in the first instance, the decision whether to provide such treatment by a revision of the marriage statutes or by the enactment of a comprehensive domestic partnership or civil union law. (See Baker v. State, supra, 744 A.2d 864, 886-889; Lewis v. Harris, supra, 908 A.2d 196, 221-223.)


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And another quote (0.00 / 0)
A number of factors lead us to this conclusion. First, the exclusion of same-sex couples from the designation of marriage clearly is not necessary in order to afford full protection to all of the rights and benefits that currently are enjoyed by married opposite-sex couples; permitting same-sex couples access to the designation of marriage will not deprive opposite-sex couples of any rights and will not alter the legal framework of the institution of marriage, because same-sex couples who choose to marry will be subject to the same obligations and duties that currently are imposed on married opposite-sex couples. Second, retaining the traditional definition of marriage and affording same-sex couples only a separate and differently named family relationship will, as a realistic matter, impose appreciable harm on same-sex couples and their children, because denying such couples access to the familiar and highly favored designation of marriage is likely to cast doubt on whether the official family relationship of same-sex couples enjoys dignity equal to that of opposite-sex couples. Third, because of the widespread disparagement that gay individuals historically have faced, it is all the more probable that excluding same-sex couples from the legal institution of marriage is likely to be viewed as reflecting an official view that their committed relationships are of lesser stature than the comparable relationships of opposite-sex couples. Finally, retaining the designation of marriage exclusively for opposite sex
couples and providing only a separate and distinct designation for same-sex couples may well have the effect of perpetuating a more general premise - now emphatically rejected by this state - that gay individuals and same-sex couples are in some respects "second-class citizens" who may, under the law, be treated
differently from, and less favorably than, heterosexual individuals or opposite-sex couples. Under these circumstances, we cannot find that retention of the traditional definition of marriage constitutes a compelling state interest. Accordingly, we conclude that to the extent the current California statutory provisions limit marriage to opposite-sex couples, these statutes are unconstitutional.


why no legal force? (0.00 / 0)
How does the civil unions legislation treat same-sex marriages that occur outside of the state?

If nothing else, wouldn't this decision enable NJ couples to go to CA, get married, and challenge DOMA and any obstructing state laws in the courts?

It would seem to me that this is a huge first step towards national marriage equality becoming a reality.  Does anybody have a guess as to how long it might take for this issue to get to the U.S. Supreme Court?  Two years?  Four years?


maybe (0.00 / 0)
I am pretty sure that right now, a gay couple could go get married in MA or 'civil unioned' in CA, move here, and they would be considered to have a NJ civil union.  I recall reading a state document which classified which state's legal relationships get turning into (equal to marriage) civil unions or (lesser status) domestic partnerships.  

I don't know the status of challenges to DOMA, and whether having your marriage turned into a civil union is a better case than having it turned into nothing as in other states.  Maybe some of the Garden State Equality leaders could explain it to us.  

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Correct - a Marriage in CA is a CU in NJ (4.00 / 1)
Though it's somewhat more complicated that that.

You can read more about it here:

http://www.stephenhyland.com/2...

An excellent primer if you still think marriage is unnecessary to restoring and preserving the rights of same sex couples ...


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much harder to get married in MA (4.00 / 2)
They have a residency requirement, dating back to when it was illegal for blacks and whites to intermarry, which says that a resident of a state where the marriage would not be recognized cannot get married in MA.

Thus, CA is the only option for same-sex couples who live in the other 48 states.  Hopefully, the coming months will give us some good data to shove in the faces of our cowardly elected officials that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt the economic benefits of marriage equality.

NJ really missed out by not being the first.  Atlantic City could have become the place to go for same-sex couples to get married.  I wonder how long it would have taken for gay-themed Vegas-esque wedding chapels to find their rightful places on Atlantic and Pacific Avenues.


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DOMA will not be challenged with this Supreme Court (4.00 / 2)
Let's face it with Roberts, Scalia , Thomas, Alito among others there is NO WAY DOMA will be challenged as far as being constitutional!

WE must elect progressive Democrats who will appoint fair-minded  judges who will overturn DOMA. The first step is putting a Democrat in the White House and making sure we have at least 60 progressive Senators, preferablly at least 60 Democrats.

As far as here in New Jersey, by our current NJ Chief Justice Rabner's ruling as AG that same-sex marriages of other legal jurisdictions, i.e. Canada, Massachusetts and now California will be treated as Civil Unions
shows he is NOT particularly "fair minded".

Our current AG has chosen not to change her predecessors ruling, nor has she chosen to invalidate NJ's several existing legal same-sex marriages.

The "solution" is simple, we need at least 41 votes in the NJ Assembly and 21 votes in the Senate to pass legislation. Our task, once vaunting, is within grasp if our friends and allies continue to help! This California decision gives us a great weapon for education and fairness and cultural acceptance.

It has been a very, very good day! One more positive step forward for the human race!

Babs Casbar Siperstein
Vice-chair Garden State Equality


"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith



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you named four judges (0.00 / 0)
What about the other five?

I would think that Breyer, Ginsburg, Souter, and Stevens would overturn DOMA.  Is Kennedy a guaranteed no vote or is he the swing vote that he always seems to be?

Part of me also thinks that Kennedy or one of the other four (Roberts, maybe) might help to overturn DOMA, because Republicans care more about being able to use marriage equality as a wedge issue to win elections than whether or not same-sex couples actually have the right to marry.

By allowing DOMA to be overturned, right-wingnuts would be inspired to work harder to pass a constitutional amendment, banning same-sex marriage.


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Alito is against Griswold (0.00 / 0)
so I am sure we'll never get a vote from him.  

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maybe not, but... (0.00 / 0)
I don't think that a 5th vote is out of the question for no other reason than the one that I provided above, which is that the Republicans want every opportunity that they can get to make marriage equality a wedge issue.

Who knows?  Maybe this mostly-Republican California State Supreme Court ruled the way that they did so that marriage equality would be a wedge issue during this Presidential election year.

While it is impossible to predict whether or not a strategy like this will achieve their desired results, it is pretty irrelevant to me.  I'm just happy that they decided the way that they did, and I will let the elections work themselves out.


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Don't count on Kennedy (0.00 / 0)
Maybe there is a 10% chance, but those are terrible odds. You would want to challenge the law if you thought it would go your way by at least 6-3, so if there was a negative surprise it would be 5-4.

That means waiting to replace at least 2 of the present conservative/reactionaries ... I'm sure a long time , but thats the horrific damage that Bush has done.

Alito? Fuhggedaboudit!

Babs

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith



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are you serious? (0.00 / 0)
I can't believe that same-sex couples would actually be forced to wait possibly 20 years, if not longer for the court to become progressive enough to win a judicial victory.

If that is the case, you probably have a better chance of getting a large enough majority of progressive Democrats in the House and Senate to repeal DOMA legislatively during the eight years of an Obama administration.

That said, I would be very disappointed in the national gay and lesbian leadership if they did not challenge DOMA in the Supreme Court ASAP.

I am going to stand by my theory that Republicans want marriage equality to be the law of the land, because they want to be able to use it as a wedge issue in this and future elections.  For this reason, I am confident that a 5th vote will be found.


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