Enough is Enough: Let's Talk Secession

We have two proposals (0.00 / 0)

Where to split and what to call the remainders...nominations are now being accepted.

Will commit political science for food.

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by: Thurman Hart @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 14:02:06 PM CDT

The east part shall be know (4.00 / 3)

as New Jimmies.

The west, New Sprinkles.

Alternately it could be New Faucet and New Spigot.

If you don't understand that, you haven't lived here long enough to be separating cheese slices, much less NJ.

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by: denniscmcgrath @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 14:31:15 PM CDT

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We use the old names... (0.00 / 0)

The Indian name Tuowan for the north and the Swedish name and Sigsonein for the south.

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by: Dvd Avins @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 16:31:48 PM CDT

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a proposal (4.00 / 1)

West/East Jersey

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by: Juan Melli @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 14:02:24 PM CDT

GREAT map n/t (0.00 / 0)

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by: denniscmcgrath @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 14:32:37 PM CDT

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NY STOLE OUR LAND! (0.00 / 0)

and we want it back.

That little part looks like a graduate's mortar board  

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by: huntsu @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 14:40:41 PM CDT

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How about Upper and Lower Jersey? (0.00 / 0)

Dealing with the Brunswicks is easy. New Brunswick should be in Upper Jersey since that also sounds like a neighborhood in Manhattan. North Brunswick should be in Lower Jersey just to confuse people. We can just burn down East Brunswick on general principle (I never liked them anyway and, quite frankly, it'd be a good excuse to replace the Brunswick Square Mall with something...good).

More to the point, though, your description of North and South Jerseyans is remarkably accurate.

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by: dennisl @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 15:03:31 PM CDT

not quite ... (4.00 / 4)

To maintain the existing level of confusion, North B., which is south of New B. but north of S. B., should be in U.J., gerrymandered through the smoking ruins of E. B. (which should be renamed the WB just on general principle). Thus, keeping New B. in L.J., as well as Franklin and S. B.

It's really important to remove any taint of spatial orientation N/S/E/W. Please refer to I-287 and or I-95/295 for instructive examples..

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by: denniscmcgrath @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 15:51:17 PM CDT

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How about NY and PA (0.00 / 0)

If we agree that it is unnecessary for our state to have 600+ school districts, can't we also agree that it would make more sense to have one less state instead of splitting New Jersey into two?

New York could take Bergen Passaic, Sussex, Hudson, Essex, Morris and Union Counties.  Pennsylvania could take the rest.  I haven't looked up the populations of each of the counties, but I think that would probably split the state's population pretty closely in two.

I'm sure that one of our wonky number crunchers can tell me how far off my guess is.

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by: rachael'sdad @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 15:30:26 PM CDT

New Jersey & (0.00 / 0)

the part by Philly.

Or try these
http://www.njsecc.net/regions

http://realty-reality.com/2004...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...


Check out my 3 paragraph primer on Polywell Fusion.

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by: FogerRox @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 15:35:08 PM CDT

secession (0.00 / 0)

Strangely enough, the secession proposal that was brought up... has already happened(somewhat):

"On Election Day in 1980, 51 percent of voters in six South Jersey
counties declared in a non-binding referendum that they wanted to
secede and establish a new state ....

The secession vote had no official weight.  It essentially was a
megaphone-scale opinion poll that caught Trenton's attention.

 

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by: Martin @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 17:15:40 PM CDT

Na Ga Happen (4.00 / 2)

Mr. Hart's most excellent modest proposal fails when neither half agrees to take Monmouth County.
;-)

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by: Cautious Man @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 17:57:36 PM CDT

A third state? n/t (0.00 / 0)

Will commit political science for food.

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by: Thurman Hart @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 18:00:22 PM CDT

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Good grief! (0.00 / 0)

So the US would have two Floridas..with 2 senators each, BTW.

Now there's a thought that should give us pause....

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."  (Teddy Roosevelt)

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by: DottieG @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 18:25:30 PM CDT

Two elections to screw up n/t (4.00 / 2)

Will commit political science for food.

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by: Thurman Hart @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 18:28:33 PM CDT

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Oregon too (0.00 / 0)

I'm waiting for the live Obama stream out of KVAL in Oregon, and I see this poll:

Do you support creating a 51st state out of Eastern Oregon?

Chris Christie forced a company to endow a professorship at the law school he went to.

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by: Hopeful @ Fri May 09, 2008 at 20:34:08 PM CDT