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What's with the polls?

by: Thurman Hart

Wed Sep 17, 2008 at 09:47:55 AM EDT



This week's poll from Q-pac has Barack Obama holding onto a slender three point lead over John McCain.  Could it really be that close?  Probably not - at least not by the time we get to November.

Take a look at the following chart where I compare September polling at Q-pac to actual results:

YearLeaderMarginUndecidedFinal Margin
2008Obama36???
2006Kean368
2005Corzine489
2004Kerry467
2002Torricelli41410

If you notice, there's a pretty consistent pattern - at this point, the leader averages roughly 3.5 points ahead with an average of 7 points worth of undecided voters (I'm going to ignore Torricelli's 14 point undecideds as an outlier).  The only thing we have to note is that in 2006, Tom Kean, Jr actually turned a three point lead into an eight point deficit.  Wow.  That is quite the accomplishment.

Thurman Hart :: What's with the polls?
If everything works out right, you would expect the undecided voters to break pretty closely along the lines of those who are already decided.  So a three-point lead in September would predict a three-point win in November - unless something happens.  And "something" seems to be happening every election.

In the 2002 election, we know what happened - Torricelli dropped out and Lautenberg stepped in.  So the unusually high number of undecideds jump on the bandwagon and hand Forrester a double-digit defeat.  

In 2006, we also had "something big" happen.  As I recall it, Kean built his entire campaign on showing that Menendez was corrupt and it came completely apart late in the season.  Kean burned his credibility, and not only did all of the undecided voters go to Menendez, but a good number of Kean leaners abandoned him as well.

That leaves us with 2004 and 2005.  Kerry faced 6% undecided voters in September with a 4-point lead.  He ended up with a seven-point victory in New Jersey - which means that Kerry picked up the undecided voters 4 to 1 (with one going elsewhere).  Corzine, the following year, would pick up the 8% undecided voters by an even larger margin - almost 7 to 1.

It isn't possible to say for sure the margin by which Obama will win New Jersey this year, but it's pretty much a slam dunk that he will win.  I expect those undecideds to slowly move over to the Obama column - by a margin of at least four to one.

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I've felt for most of the 00's now that NJ polling is just intended to create horse-races and sell newspapers.  I think the media gets bored with a one-party state which we've become and needs to make hay out of what they can.  The Forrester-Corzine race was particularly glaring....it was so 'close' and then the voters spoke.

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I couldn't agree more with what you said.  I found this on real clear politics:
http://www.monmouth.edu/pollin...

its a Monmouth poll released yesterday showing Obama with an 8 point lead in NJ.  It states his lead has narrowed since the summer but I expect thats do to the Republican Convention bounce.  He will undoubtedly carry NJ easily.  In fact todays Gallup Poll actually showed Obama retaking the lead by 2 points nationally for the first time since the Republican convention: http://www.gallup.com/poll/110...

this just shows that all of that talk about Palin "changing" the race was a complete front and the polling is now back to where it was right before the conventions started.


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