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Peeking behind the Qpac Numbers

by: Thurman Hart

Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 08:46:28 AM EDT



Any illusions that Dick Zimmer (who?) would be competitive with Frank Lautenberg can be easily dashed by looking at the Quinnipiac polling report.  This year's race is practically an afterthought in the focus on a hypothetical match-up between Jon Corzine and Chris Christie.  But let's get this year completed before we look ahead.

Among registered voters, Lautenberg leads Zimmer by eight - down one point from two months ago.  Lautenberg's support dropped two points - which is far from significant, but interesting only because it is twice the decline in support that Zimmer saw.  Registered voters were most likely to be moving to the "Don't Know" column than anything else.

In the smaller realm of "likely voters", Lautenberg's lead holds at seven points, 48 to 41.  It's purely a numbers game here.  Lautenberg has support of 78 percent of Democrats and Zimmer has support of 80 percent of Republicans.  Zimmer even leads among Indies - 44 to 42.  But builk numbers lean towards the Dems, so FRL picks up a return to DC.

Thurman Hart :: Peeking behind the Qpac Numbers
The bad news for Dems is that Jon Corzine continues to be a symbol of everything that is wrong with Jersey politics.  While the hypothetical matchup between Corzine and Chris Christie is a statistical dead heat, Christie has the slight edge - 41-40 among registered voters.  

The really bad news for Corzine is the demographic that costs him the election - Democrats.  Comparing Christie and Zimmer, we can see that Christie actually has a bit less support among Republicans (80 to 76) and Indies (44-42).  But where only 12% of Democrats plan to vote for Zimmer, that number rises to 17% when the choice is Corzine or Christie.  

It's also important to see where Corzine loses the election.  Lautenberg's slight lead in the Shore districts (44-43) turns to a twenty point lead for Christie (31-51).  Lautenberg's five point lead in "Phillyland" (48-43) is turned into a twelve point deficit for Corzine (34-46).

It isn't hard to see why Corzine is in trouble.  Among Democrats, his favorable/unfavorable numbers are only 55/29.  Democrats have a registration advantage - and have excellent get-out-the-vote operations - but when that slender of a margin of partisans supports the incumbent, things are going to get expensive.

But Jerseyans are just in a bad mood.  59% of us disapprove of the state legislature.  Corzine's favorability numbers are a net six points negative (42/48).  Bob Menendez' favorability numbers are neutral (33/-34).  Only Frank Lautenberg has net positive numbers - a +8 (46/38) - and those are nothing to write home about.  When asked how they thought things were going in New Jersey, only 32% had a positive response, and the breakdown is 30% "somewhat" and 2% "very".  67% had a negative response, 35% "somewhat" and 32% "very".  Only 9% believe that things have gotten better under Jon Corzine, while 39% think they have gotten worse.  Those kinds of numbers favor the minority party - but only if they can convince voters they have something different to offer.

But here's where I tell you that polling is just a scam, though.  Fully ten percent of those polled didn't know enough to have an opinion about Jon Corzine.  Nineteen percent hadn't heard enough about Frank Lautenberg to have an opinion.  Jon Corzine has been governor for almost three years and Frank Lautenberg has been Senator since 1982, except from 2000 to 2002, when he "retired" and was replaced by - Jon Corzine.  If you don't know enough about these two men to have an opinion, then you just haven't been paying attention.

If Jon Corzine gets behind Barack Obama, he can still land a plum job back in DC - and it certainly looks like he should put some serious thought into that strategy.  If Corzine isn't the candidate for Governor next year, who do you think should be?

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If Jon Corzine doesn't run for governor next year, who should be the Democratic nominee?
Rob Andrews
Dick Codey
Joe Cryan
Cory Booker
Someone else (put in comments)
Doesn't matter, I vote the ticket

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I don't know who ... (0.00 / 0)
but Andrews and his NJ1 scam hurt him among a lot of Dems, particularly those in the North.  He'll have a hard time getting the nod.

Codey's time has passed.  He had a shot before, but now he seems a lot like a guy who just can't pull the trigger.  He's happy as SP, I think.

Cryan?  I really like the guy but don't think he has the statewide ID or distance from scandal needed to take the office.

Cory Booker has too much work to do in Newark, and I think he really wants to make a difference there before he moves on to his next job.  He will move on, but only once there are demonstrable successes there.  This is both because of his own desire to see Newark improved, and for the real poitik that he doesn't want to look like an ambitious climber with no achievements.

So I don't know who it will be.  Maybe a Mayor like Woodbridge's John MacCormac who has a great rep despite the McGreevey connections.  

But I fully expect Corzine to run.


I was one of those polled (4.00 / 1)
but with 1518 other respondents it's not too is an effect.



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