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A letter on end of (presidential) primary season anxiety

by: JRB

Mon Jun 02, 2008 at 12:33:13 PM EDT



Hey Blue Jersey,

While the first rule at Blue Jersey is to keep it Jersey-centric, this diary breaks that -- but only because this is one of the best places to engage in a constructive criticism/debate. I really had such a great time watching the Senate debate with you here on Friday night that I hope we can discuss this in a way that's respectful to supporters of both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

The past two months or so, I've been keeping up with a lot of the pro-Hillary blogs to see what their perspective is: on what they feel slights her, what they perceive as the important developments and generally what they think about Barack. The reading has provided insight on when and how best to reunite this party once the contests are settled.

It's been enlightening, but I can't say it's been heartening. That's because the main thrust has not been about why Hillary should be the nominee, but why Barack shouldn't. There's a good reason for this: the circumstances and outlook of the group. He's held the advantage for some time now and Clinton supporters came to these blogs to find like-minded people -- they don't need to justify their support for Hillary everyday, nor should they be expected to.

I, too, have shared their disappointment. I was so very disappointed in how so many people savaged Clinton for her poor choice of an analogy in her editorial meeting with the Argus Leader. She should not have referenced the murder of Robert Kennedy, but in no way did it seem that she was suggesting the specter of assassination was keeping her in the race. It was shameful of Obama's communications office to rebuke her like that.

And other times I feel like Hillary's campaign should not be given an inch because it seems like she's trying to discredit Obama as someone who has not earned his position, feeding into the biased perspective some have of the most successful African American candidate in history.

Take the popular vote line -- that Hillary has gotten the most votes in history -- is qualified by Obama getting a big fat zero in Michigan. But because they've been saying it for so long, reporters have stopped mentioning it's the popular vote "by her count," I guess because they think it's implied. Maybe it is just me, but I feel like Hillary is arguing that Obama is being handed the nomination over someone who's more qualified and actually earned it. And that message creates yet another obstacle for Obama to bring in those Clinton supporters who resented his upstart candidacy in the first place.

Chuck Todd suggested this morning that these arguments Clinton is making will only matter if Obama loses the nomination. Then she'll come back and say that she should have been the nominee all along. I used to think that was absurd, but now some of the rumor-mongering that's coming out of the Clinton blogs  -- namely a bogus claim that Michelle Obama ranted about "whitey" -- is being echoed in Republican circles. They're arguing that Obama is a McGovern/Kerry waiting to happen. They're declaring the election is John McCain's. They're rooting for a Democratic loss to say, 'I told you so.'

It's really, really sad.

That's about all I can muster in reaction.

I would say that because of circumstances, it's hard to imagine what would happen if the shoe was on the other foot. Obama faces big challenges in putting the Democratic Party back together again, but so would Hillary if she were to receive the nomination now. She would have to go after the youth, African American and so-called "elites" she has written off for the past few months. She would then have to face the onslaught of questions over the money she poured into her campaign. Reconciling the party would not be an open-shut matter.

Worst of all -- and bringing this post full circle -- is that what so many of her backers say is needed in order for Clinton's rise would create a huge obstacle to party unity. It means that Obama would have to have gone down hard -- meaning that something so major would have to happen to him that there'd be no way he could be the vice presidential nominee. That would mean there'd be no way whatsoever for the party to reunite around a coalition ticket. It's been months since anyone speculated that Clinton could lead anything but a Clinton-Obama ticket. So not only would Obama be out of the picture as the nominee -- he'd be out as the VP nominee, too.

I take it that most Clinton supporters feel an Obama-Clinton ticket is unlikely anyhow, matching their all-or-nothing mindset. But I entertain it as something that is possibly necessary for November.

Either way, it's June. I haven't been scared about the party coming together until recently, telling myself that it'll all come together, it will all be OK. But this primary season is unprecedented. Anything could happen. Hence the end of primary anxiety.

So, in closing, what are your thoughts about this, Blue Jersey? (And I'm most interested in hearing from Clinton supporters on this one).

Thanks and all the best,
JRB

JRB :: A letter on end of (presidential) primary season anxiety
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Time to stop the enabling (4.00 / 1)
There has been too much coddling for too long.  Too much moving of the goalposts.  Too much destructive and self-serving rhetoric.

Instead of taking advantage of the multiple opportunities to create a graceful exit that preserves some degree of future viability, the Clintons have instead expended all of their goodwill.  They have continued to open the door for idiocy like this:  http://www.startribune.com/pol...

The challenge for a long time has been for Hillary supporters to articulate a winning strategy that did not involve Obama getting run over by a bus.  The statements at the Argus-Leader were simply the latest and most explicit in a long line of that type of thinking.  If there is a smoking gun, if Hillary suspended her campaign some time ago (most recently after NC and Indiana) and something then happened, she would likely be offered the nomination on a silver platter.  I sincerely doubt that many Obama supporters would be willing to accept that today.

Saying that Hillary is ahead in the popular vote by counting Michigan (and not counting the caucuses, but of course we count Puerto Rico which can't even vote in November!) engenders the same anger as Bush does when he refers to the "Democrat Party."  It is unnecessary and disrespectful.

It has gotten to the point that one is left with the inevitable conclusion that Hillary wants to torpedo the Party so she can "ride to the rescue" in 2012.


Hillary lost, because it wasnt a fair fight. (2.00 / 1)


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How many gallons of Kool-Aid did you drink? n/t (2.33 / 3)


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I have a tank truck in front of the house (1.00 / 1)
I have to drink a gallon every hour. One time I only drunk 3 qrts, I started chanting GOBAMA, as a I ran thru traffic at rush hour.

Obama, 2008 elections

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Snarks don't always come across. (oops) n/t (4.00 / 1)


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reminder (3.50 / 2)
snark or not, troll ratings are a community moderation mechanism - mainly for trolls - not people you disagree with.

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I give out lots of 4's (1.00 / 1)
hoping the lack of a 4, brings attention to the fact I think the targeted post sucked 4 day old watermelon rind.

All my friends get 4's.

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So, your "0" is there because... n/t (0.00 / 0)


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for abusing the ratings (0.00 / 0)
It's a form of moderation. I don't think those who abuse ratings should be "Trusted Users" with the ability to troll rate since they don't use the ratings appropriately. So I rate down those who abuse the ratings system.

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??? (0.00 / 0)
So, putting an "unproductive" is only allowed by the annointed ones????

I haven't "trolled" anybody.  I have given out "unproductives" when I have felt that a statement was illogical, etc.  I already removed mine when I got the joke.  Yet, you have kept your troll rating on my earlier comment which still makes no sense.

I am at a loss for this new distinction of "trusted users."  What does that mean?  

I apologize to JRB for us hijacking the thread.  :-)


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Hillary lost because Obama is racist (0.00 / 0)
Afterall she ran the most perfect campaign .. evah.

/snark-o-lisious

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