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Telecom Immunity

by: Hopeful

Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:50:40 AM EST



Although as a group the Democratic party and leadership failed the country, I want to praise Senators Frank Lautenberg and Bob Menendez for voting the right way on the Dodd-Feingold Amendment to strip the Bush/Rockerfeller/Reid Telecom Immunity provision.  

Update [Juan]: Statement from Menendez:

Law-abiding American citizens should be able to trust that their government won?t listen in on their personal communications without a warrant just because they place a call overseas.  But that is a real possibility under the FISA legislation just passed by the Senate. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are things that make this country worth fighting for, and I believe that we can protect the Constitution as well as our security. This bill wrongly assumes that you cannot protect civil liberties at the same time that you are protecting national security. As a result, it significantly undermines the privacy rights of each and every American.

"There is no doubt in my mind that the current Administration will drive a truck through every single loophole that the Republicans blocked us from closing. Those loopholes will allow the bulk collection of communications information, as well as the use of information gathered in violation of FISA's own provisions. We need a national security policy that stops those who would do us harm while protecting that which makes us great: our civil rights and liberties. Sadly, this is not it."

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for anyone keeping track (4.00 / 1)
Matt Browner-Hamlin is keeping track at his blog: http://holdfastblog.com/

reconcile (0.00 / 0)
they'll have to square this version (retro immunity and all) with the House rendering which does NOT give the telecoms the same immunity.)

thats what i hear on NPR a minute ago.

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Clinton and Obama Should Focus on This One.... (0.00 / 0)
....and push for a conference bill that denies retroactive immunity for lawbreakers!

This is worthy of being put front and center into the national spotlight and worthy of a filibuter.   Any Dem who fails to support holding the Bush administration accountable in these regards is betraying, not just hie/her party, but more importantly the spirit of the oath of office they swore to uphold.

It's an essentially corrupt abomination that our freedom s are being trifled with in this manner and that the effort to "sweep it under the rug" is being joined by so many "Democrats".  WTF is going on here?


Dodd's Comment says it all (4.00 / 4)
Courtesy of TPM Muckraker...
The Senate had "just sanctioned" the "single largest invasion of privacy in the history of the country,"


Doddmania (0.00 / 0)

From the same link: Dodd vows that if FISA bill including retroactive telecom immunity emerges from House/Senate conference, "he'd 'absolutely' filibuster that bill; he'd use 'whatever vehicles we can' to stop it."

And thanks to Menendez and Lautenberg.


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That's quite a quote. (0.00 / 0)
And he's always been out-front on this issue.

It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  

Specter's amendment should burn... (0.00 / 0)
"Also going down in flames was Arlen Specter's amendment that would have required the federal government to indemnify the telecoms, essentially stepping into the shoes of the telecoms to defend any suits and pay any judgments."

This amendment should have gone down in flames.  If the Specter admendment passed, we the taxpayers would be funding the government to represent the telecoms in the very law suit we're bringing against the government/telecoms. Then, to be doubly f*cked, we'd fund the payout, if any was awarded by the court(s).


The spectre of Specter (0.00 / 0)
Arlen Specter has pretended to be a "moderate" for years, and too many people have been fooled.  Glad he's revealing his true colors.

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are."  (Teddy Roosevelt)

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Clinton and Obama Failed to Vote on This: Why? (0.00 / 0)
As I've been saying all along, even when one of these two becomes president; they'll still have to be pushed, and pushed hard by a massive grass roots progressive movement of ordinary unconnected unmonied Americans....or nothing much will really change for the better......allowing McCain to be elected guarantees a continued slide down hill.

Here's a list of the Democrats who voted for this horrible law.   They must think no one is watching...

Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)

I bet that in an America where all campaigns were financed by the public; none of these individuals would have gone along with this sell out......with the exception of, maybe Lieberman, eh?

Let's push Lautenberg and Menendez to join with Dodd in a filibuster if that's what it takes to kill "retroactive immunity"!!!



Obama Voted For Amendment (4.00 / 2)
At least according to the Senate Roll Call.  However, he did skip the vote on the bill.

[ Parent ]
Barack Obama (4.00 / 2)
voted in favor of the Dodd-Feingold Amendment.

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