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Smith, Saxton, LoBiondo & Ferguson Prepare to Flip on Iraq

by: Juan Melli

Tue Aug 07, 2007 at 11:17:07 PM EDT



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Most of the state's Republican Congressional delegation seems to be setting the stage to finally admit that it's time to withdraw from Iraq. But not quite yet. They already know they're going to do it, but they're waiting for the political cover, and as they stall, they're letting more and more troops die in the process.

Today's Trenton Times reports that Congressmen Jim Saxton and Chris Smith are both feeling the heat when it comes to their continued support for Bush's failed war. Smith insists that a deadline is a bad idea, but gives himself some wiggle room by saying it might be okay if we keep it a secret (shhhh!!)

While he has voted against specific deadlines for when the United States should leave the war-torn country, he said he would favor a deadline that would be kept "a closely guarded secret."

He said, "If a deadline is announced, it gives an enemy that is very capable and very willing to engage in mass atrocities, a timeline to act."

Who is he kidding? They don't need a timeline to act. They're committing atrocities every day right now.

Jim Saxton's press secretary Jeff Sagnip suggests he may also be about to flip:

When asked if Saxton has even considered changing his stance, Sagnip said it was "possible."
And Frank Lobiondo has been setting the stage for a (September?) flop since at least last month:
"If the Iraqi government continues to fail to make measurable progress, our military involvement and any future mission in Iraq must be carefully re-examined."
Mike Ferguson even set a September deadline for his upcoming flip flop:
"I am beyond frustrated," he says. "Either we get good news by September, or something radical has to change. And it's tough to imagine a scenario where they will meet the benchmarks by then."

"I've got to tell you, my patience, along with a lot of other Republicans and Democrats, is wearing extremely thin," Ferguson says.

How much more clear can he be? He knows what will happen, but he's stalling -- at the expense of our troops - while he waits for the political cover to finally admit the obvious truth. It's time to bring the troops home.
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The Republicans put loyalty to the President ahead of any other factor, and with the gerrymandered districts we have in Jersey, they know they are pretty safe.

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Most districts in NJ are pretty safe but thanks to demographic shift, less so than over the past several elections.

these GOPoodles will start to peel away rather quickly any time now.  after all, "September" is only a few weeks ago.

heck, i hope to be wrong, i hope the news out of Iraq next month is spectacularly good.  if that's the case, i'll eat the crow.  but that doesn't seem likely, especially given the recent shiftings of the most durable of war apologists.

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The administration always has good news when it comes to Iraq. We've been turning corners for the last five years so I don't expect to start hearing bad news in September.

That's part of the problem. They've lied to us so many times that even if there really was good news to report this time, nobody would believe them.


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the problem here (0.00 / 0)
is that there is already "rumblings" of success or a favorable report by Petraeus in September.  There was a NY Times article recently by 2 people from Brookings who say "the surge is working", and the party line now is that "there is progress being made".

The problem is (1) the Democrats aren't calling bullshit on this, and (2) there is absolutely NO progress other than more dead Iraqis and a few less dead soldiers.  No benchmarks are being met, the Iraqi government is on vacation, more attacks are happening against our troops - even in the Green Zone, and there are more attacks between Sunnis and Shiites as well. 

The only "security" is a game of whack-a-mole.

There are already calls for "another 6 months", and that is not being countered, even though it is plain as day that this is all a bullshit ploy.

If any of the NJ republicans come out in a meaningful way, it would be a HUGE deal.

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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