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Sorry, gotta get Imus off my chest

by: Jon Shure

Wed Apr 11, 2007 at 04:10:04 PM EDT



Back when I was Communications Director it was my task one day to help convince Governor Florio he should go on the Don Imus Show. He did it, and he did fine. There would be more appearances and the bottom line was Imus seemed to like him, so on the whole it was an okay experience.

It did leave me marveling somewhat about the modern state of discourse. I couldn't image, for example, Gov. Woodrow Wilson ever doing whatever might have been the equivalent of Imus in 1910. It is what it is, but Imus's recent insult to the Rutgers women's basketball team got me to thinking about why it is what it is, and whether it should be.

Why is what Imus does appealing to his audience? One thing that occurs to me is that Imus comes across like the cool kids in high school. You know the ones who if they said something it was funny but if you said it, no one laughed. The ones who were pretty much the arbiters of style and taste. Being cool, they determined what else was cool. I'm not sure whether Imus's current followers are the cool kids attempting to extend their reign into middle age, or the uncool kids enjoying what it's like to be on the other side for a change. Maybe some of both.

The other part of the appeal, I think, is the nature of Imus's usual targets. He generally unloads on politicians and show biz people. Now, those two groups have something in common. They both seek public approval, and they seek it hard. One group wants votes and power; the other money and fame. We can all probably agree that the attempts of both groups to win us over can get a little pathetic sometimes. So we kind of like to see them put down.

Especially when it comes to politicians, there is something in the American psyche that wants our leaders to be no better than we are. Why that is and what to do about are topics for another time. But we enjoy it when they get ribbed and we want to see how well they can take it. Their willingness to sit still for this earns them points with the public. And if they turn out to be good-humored and quick with a comeback, it helps that much more in their quest to be seen as a regular guy-or woman.

Bottom line: it's not a great system, but these people-in the world we live in-are fair game. You could go so far as to say they're asking for it. That brings us to what was so downright tacky about Imus's attack on the Rutgers women hoopsters. They didn't appear on national TV last week in search of our votes or our money. They were there because they won the requisite basketball games to play for the NCAA championship. That was a pretty impressive moment in the spotlight, but it by no means made them fair game.

What made it even worse was that Imus picked on the way they looked. I think they looked just fine, but that's not the point. Had anyone on the team done anything in the title game that was the least bit questionable (I don't know, a hard foul or an obscene gesture), well then maybe you could go off on them. But to make fun of their appearance?

That's juvenile. That's bullying. That's the sort of thing the cool kids could always get away with. Imus is being accused of being racist and/or sexist. Either could certainly be applicable. But I think what has so many of us so annoyed by his latest insult is that is was just so damned mean, so damned nasty, so incredibly uncalled for even under the standards of the political/media culture we live in today. The RU basketball team wasn't asking for it.

Jon Shure :: Sorry, gotta get Imus off my chest
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I could care less about Don Imus.  I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would listen to him, much less watch him on TV.

As far as the comment goes, you raise a good point - and it reminds me of the very moving story Coach Stringer told during her statement.  I'd like to add to that:

I believe the most telling part of this is that it was comments about a women's sport team.  Male football and basketball players have tatoos and raggedy hair, but no comment is ever made about that.  The fact is that women in public life of whatever kind are held to a very different standard when it comes to appearance.  They must not only be good at whatever their job is, they must also look like June Cleaver while doing it.

XT


Not true (0.00 / 0)
Actually, Imus got a little trouble in the past for referring to NBA players as pimps. There was a list of some of the other nasty things he has said in the WSJ today.

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Totally off topic, but ... (0.00 / 0)
It did leave me marveling somewhat about the modern state of discourse. I couldn't image, for example, Gov. Woodrow Wilson ever doing whatever might have been the equivalent of Imus in 1910.
I wonder what that was. There was an awful lot of showmanship involved back in the early 20th century, but decades prior to that it was considered uncouth to openly campaign.

Honestly, Prof. Wilson was cut from a different cloth than his political contemporaries in my opinion. I read a book about Harding which describes a meeting between the two. Harding and some other Senators had gone to see the President to discuss the diplomacy around installing the League of Nations. The President lectured the Senators like they were students of his, and not worthy of any input.

It seems like Wilson was a bit too stuffy for his own good.


Why do I listen? (0.00 / 0)
I was definitely not a cool kid.  I was part of what the cool kids called the Nerd Herd.  And I'm definitely not trying to be cool now- I know a lost cause when I see one.

And yet I listen to Imus.  Because, just like your story shows, he gets really interesting personalities on his show.  And most of the time, the interviews are informative.  When he has annoying people like Laura Ingraham on or one of his unfunny comedy bits (which most of them are) I change the station. 

That said, he was way over the line.  And I think you've nailed why this is so upsetting- the basketball players didn't ask for it.  They're not public figures, they are student athletes. 

I'm glad Imus is being punished and I can only hope he learned something.


Imus has an evil twin! (0.00 / 0)
Amid all the hullabaloo, virtually nothing has been said about the voice that called the young women 'hos" immediately before Imus did. That was Bernard McGurk, who is the program's engineer and participates actively in the dialog. Imus frequently chastises McGurk for outrageous things he says, but of course it's all part of the structure of the program. The format is very much like the Jack Benny program; all the performers have specific identities and play of one another in much the same way. McGurk is the evil twin who represents the ultra far right. If anyone desrves to pay a penalty for this disgraceful performance, it's he. This doesn't excuse Imus, of course; it simply identifies the chief criminal.

Peter Zenger 


His comments are indefensible (0.00 / 0)
but I'd rather he wasn't fired. He was jabbering in the style he's used all his career. Why not wait & see what this does to that style?  Ever heard O'Reilly or Malkin or Coulter apologize or offer to temper the tone of their spew?

Imus' racism is nothing new (0.00 / 0)
... and I'd like to point out that Howard Stern has been talking about it for years. For some strange reason, politicians have been embracing Imus as a "safe" version of Howard Stern. But there is a big difference - Stern's an equal-opportunity offender and he brings out racial stereotypes to poke fun at them. With Don Imus, you're getting his own personal attitude - the man is full of hate.

That being said, it doesn't really bother me if Imus' show goes on or not. He's never been entertaining or original.  Just nasty & mean. Why are people just noticing now?


Overblown (0.00 / 0)
This has become a typical media circus with enough hypocrisy to go around.  What he said was idiotic and wrong, but radio and cable TV have tolerated similar stuff.  For years Bob Grant, Rush Limbaugh, etc. have thrived on racism without needing to actually be as blatant.  Al Sharpton has thrived on McCarthyite tactics when it comes to race.  The problem isn't Imus, it's a lack of a fairness doctrine and an environment where outrageousness is encouraged.

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