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My View of the Presidential Candidates. VI. Hillary Clinton

by: Hopeful

Fri Feb 09, 2007 at 09:55:41 PM EST



This is my much delayed  account of the last of the Presidential candidates I saw at the 2007 DNC Winter Meeting, Senator Hillary Clinton.  I remind you again that I did not get to see Governors Vilsack and Richardson, or Senators Biden and Gravel.  My impression from other blogs that they all gave great speeches, and are worth looking at.  Some of them talked with Jay and JRB.

My first impression is that there is no question Hillary is a very formidable candidate.  Her campaign easily had the most supporters present -- dressed up nicely in suits and dresses -- and they handed out innumerable signs.  I heard a nearby DNC member say that she has learned to speak very well, though I understand she was Hopeful :: My View of the Presidential Candidates. VI. Hillary Clinton

In this speech, she argued that we must create coalitions to get the votes we need.  She said that the social bargain that created the middle class is under threat.  She told her family story, as a daughter of the middle class.  She criticized CEO pay and corporate profits.  She had a stunning statistic:  more people went bankrupt last year than graduated college.  She got huge applause for asked 'What does no child left behind mean?'  She criticized shipping jobs overseas, and made a very interesting argument that linked that trend to the Bush deficit:  She said that debt is the reason we can't be tough on China... You can't be tough with your banker.

As you might imagine, there was one area that ran into rough spots, and that was the part about the Iraq war.  A number of people shouted criticisms and diagreements, including an organized group which I understand was Code Pink.  There was a definitely a counter-reaction against the hecklers, though I don't think there was great enthusiasm for her position.  She defended the non-binding resolution, and pointed out that she would not have started the war in October 2002 if she had been President.  She argued that we need 60 votes to cut off funding.  She proposed capping troop levels, and promised to end the war as President. 

The war aside, she got a strong reaction to the rest of her speech.  Energy independence and health care got her big cheers.  She said that she can put together coalitions to make healthcare happen, not just make speeches about it or propose some bill that won't be passed.  (I took this as an argument against the other Democrats.)  She said she can 'actually get results' and smart, strong leadership to provide solutions that everyone knows we need. 

Then she made a strong pitch that she is electable: I know a thing or two about winning campaigns.  We have to stand up and fight back.

She got big applause for 'the first woman President.'  She promised to face global warming, genocide in Sudan, war in Iraq. 

Her big line at the end was We are that change.

Her ending rock music was 'You ain't seen nothing yet.'

Overall, she definitely aimed to sound more 'moderate' than Edwards -- or at least tempering expectations of what the current Congress can do -- while arguing that she is able to make coalitions and pass important bills.  She also clearly was making the argument that she (in her own right, and as part of Bill Clinton's campaigns) actually has beaten the Republicans. 

 

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Who Do the Republicans Fear? (0.00 / 0)
It is all about winning back the White House.

Don't ask fellow Democrats who they like, ask Republicans who they fear.

The despise Hillary for a reason. She knows how to beatthem at their own game.

She will not be the " tripped" but rather she will be the " tripper" .

I vote for who Sean Hannity and " old Rush" attack the most!

Edwards and Obama are too " nice" to beat the Republicans. Hillary will tolerate no nonsense and will give more than she gets.

Politics is like Pro Sports ., only the " W" counts.

Hillary has her faults, but she will get you the W ! 


that is definitely the case she is making (0.00 / 0)
As well, of course, as her pitch about what she will do as President.


Frank LoBiondo Record and Jon Runyan Watch

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Clinton Gore, With Al On The Top... (0.00 / 0)
of the ticket; would be a nice fantasy fulfillment trip.  If only to rub the Republicans nose in the sweet smell of competence.  Also I give her credit for staying, pretty much withing the time limits at the Meeting...Edwards went on for nearly twenty minutes.

If Hillary wins the nomination it's full steam ahead, all guns blazing; but I think she'd do better as the VP candidate.....how about Obama-Clinton!  Now THAT would be historic.

It seems Al has lost the firey belly requisite for presidential runs, and unfortunately, I doubt Clinton would even consider such a "lowly" position. Then again, I might be wrong.

In any event, I'm sure all this will look very different a year from now, eh?


I think you are correct, Nick (0.00 / 0)
Clinton would never do the VP thing. Neither would Obama, Edwards or Gore.  Why would they, unless they could run the place, as Cheney does now?

We are talking super duper egos here.

On a different note: Regardless of what one thinks of Hillary's political positions, she is being treated shabbily by the bobbleheads in the MSM.

Jamison Foser, of Media Matters, did a great piece on these paid to talk/write numbskulls like Andrew Sullivan and Tweety.  Had to do with poodle skirts and cooties.

Can't find the essay right now, but when I do, I will post a link.

BTW, Media Matters is a great resource for upending the BS that we are bombarded with.  Was started by David Brock (I think I got the name right)who, in another life, was paid to trash Hillary.

I'm not even a Hillary fan, but I hate this gender stuff.  And I hate the race stuff, too.  Madrassas?

Egad.  How can we be so backward?


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Jamison Foser Made Some Good Points... (0.00 / 0)
http://mediamatters....

The irony is that (imho) Hillary is actually more (internally) compassionate/progressive than Bill was during his term.  My gut tells me that underneath all the armor, this Lady is a sweetheart.

Unfortunately she's a walking target for all manner of unfair and unjust criticism/commentary.

On the other hand if Hillary would just admit that her vote on Iraq was a mistake that she made because she (along with the American people) was fed a bunch of LIES by this administration; I bet she would be even more popular/respected...and her chances of winning the nomination would be enhanced.



I understand, Nick (0.00 / 0)
A cyber-friend of mine, whose family actually knows the Clintons and has worked with them, feels that Hillary has to take her Iraq position because she does not want to be viewed as "soft."  Whatever that means.

It makes me crazy.  We need leadership, no matter from whom it springs.


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Swell... (0.00 / 0)
We now have a president who saber-rattles to make himself feel more like a man.  Now we want to replace him with a woman who is going to have to saber-rattle to make OTHERS feel that she is like a man?

None for me, thanks.


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I agree. (0.00 / 0)
Hillary is a smart lady, and I really wish that she did not/would not take the positions she has.

My gripe is how the MSM treats candidates: as caricatures, cartoons and stereotypes.

Political humor is fun to observe.

But the cheap stuff (and I know about that) is really deadly in these deadly times.  Especially when a lot of people vote, based upon what is presented to them by these "talking heads."


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