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Why Diane Legriede is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG

by: denniscmcgrath

Mon Sep 11, 2006 at 08:39:21 AM EDT



(Tell it, Brother - promoted by jay lassiter)

Leaving aside for the moment the impossibly obvious fact that the real Whoopi Goldberg and a Cher look-alike have absolutely NOTHING in common insofar as their potential to offend – at least on a political level – (I’ll take real Whoopi over a Cher-a-be any day) — and that Ms. Legriede’s issues re: the Cher impersonator at the LBGTI caucus was based solely and entirely upon her own personal discomfort with men who look fabulous as women – let’s look at WHY being so disrespectful to gay, lesbian, transgendered, intersexed and bisexual Democratic Voters is such a REALLY bad idea for the Democratic Party.

I’m referencing a 1994 poll, since the question at hand is whether one Cher look-alike at a NJ political event two years before 2008 can skew the entire country into another four years of Republican rule.

The whole poll can be found here.

A disclaimer: Nearly 8,000 GLBT people completed the annual Gay/Lesbian Consumer Online Census study this summer (2004). “Drawing a true random sample of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people is highly problematic," said Dr. Beth Barnes, fellow researcher of the original GLCensus survey, and now a consultant to the project and Director of the School of Journalism & Telecommunications at the University of Kentucky. "The GLCensus approach of providing an anonymous Internet-based means of expressing opinions is not projectable to the entire GLBT population in the U.S., but does represent the largest single respondent panel from all 50 states and provides a snapshot of the GLBT voter pool."

What the pool says in brief is this:

88% of GLBT respondents are registered to vote

9 out of 10 GLBTs will cast their votes to Kerry

Kerry’s strength grows in gay and lesbian households as age and income increases, and with those who are partnered, legally coupled or married.

(Sounds like a good reason to get behind marriage equality and PUSH, doesn’t it?)

denniscmcgrath :: Why Diane Legriede is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG
Among those who said they are registered as Republicans, 50% of male respondents say they will vote for Kerry and 17.3% are undecided. Among female registered Republicans, 49.1% say they will vote for Kerry and 26.8% are undecided.

Of the survey respondents, 88% said they were registered to vote. In the last presidential election, according to the U.S. Census, 70% of Americans were registered to vote.

Lesbian, gay, bisexual, intersexed and transgendered people (and their families and friends and supporters) constitute as much as 10 percent of the American population – it’s hard to say for sure how many, but as voters we have as much clout as other ‘special interest’ groups.

Did middle America vote for Bush and against QueerNation? Someone show me the figures! Prove it!

I think they voted for Bush and against Kerry. John Kerry lost because his campaign was rudderless and the Bushies beat him like a red-headed step-child, up one side and down the other. If Kerry had show some backbone maybe he would be president.

But voting “values” isn’t solely or even mostly a straight-gay dichotomy. And I resent the implication that in order to save America, I and my ‘peeps’ need to sit in back of the bus and for god sakes SHUT UP.

Baloney!

After the election, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force conducted polls to determine what impact "values had on the elction. What they concluded was this:

These data lead us to conclude that it is likely that core Republican Party loyalists learned President Bush’s message in the campaign and, when asked to rationalize their vote in terms of position on an issue, they cited an issue that President Bush emphasized in his campaign.

Rather than choosing candidates on the basis of issues, voters often learn what to think about the issues from the candidates and parties they already prefer. These data indicate that saying that “moral values” was the most important issue often was a consequence of holding pro-Republican positions on the war and on the economy and of general approval of the Bush Presidency.

The Republican campaign energized and mobilized its core constituency by emphasizing “moral
values” in their campaign. These data indicate that the use of this issue was more likely to
reinforce pre-existing preferences among the Republican base
and to activate others who already leaned toward the Republican Party than it was to convert Democrats.

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Way to go, Dennis - this is an extremely thoughtful and well researched posting (4.00 / 1)
Thank you so, so much.

As far as the LGBTI community's being 10 percent, no doubt in "red" states it's less - but in New Jersey and other "blue" states, no doubt it's more. 

Putting aside the offensiveness of Diane Legreide's conduct, the Democratic State Committee needs to understand the booming population and electoral power of the LGBTI community.  Clearly the DSC doesn't understand yet.

Today there are at least 20 large-sized municipalities around the state with significant LGBTI populations now, which was not the case 10 or 20 years ago.  New Jersey, in fact, is undergoing an LGBTI population boom as no other state in America is.

The reason:  The LGBTI community nationwide is suburbanizing rapidly, ie moving from the cities to the surrounding areas as we start families, have kids and seek the same piece of the American dream, a home, a yard, convenience, that the rest of America seeks. 

New Jersey, as statistically America's #1 most suburban state, is the ultimate beneficiary of the national trend of LGBTI suburbanization.

It's a prime reason for why the state has moved to the left over the last several years, when much of the rest of the country has moved to the right. 


maybe we are too much.... (0.00 / 0)
....in their pocket? they have the gay vote and they know it. 

The good news is The Cher Incident (tm) may be a catalyst to move the state committee in toward some policy changes that won't leave so many people scratching their heads at the end of the convention.

jay
(who remains optimistic)

p.s. By the way, what was the press coverage of the Convention, anyway?

activist for hire.Follow jay_lass on Twitter


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Yeah, Jay, it is true that the Democrats know we're pretty much in their corner vote-wise.

Part of what Steven Goldstein is doing via Garden State Equality is calling attention to how much MONEY the LBGTI community represents in terms of political contributions -- we probably won't ever abandon the Democratic party, but we needn't contribute to campaigns and candidates that make us feel disenfranchised. When GSE releases its endorsements, I think you can always see who has been a friend of the LBGTI community, and who has been less so.

Today isn't a day to take names and kick butts. But starting tomorrow, I expect to see some name-taking and butt-kicking coming from the state leadership re: the Woman of Massive Disco found in Atlantic City, aka The Cher Incident (tm).

I, for one, do not sit quietly in the back of the bus waiting for "the right moment" to be set free by my 'betters.' I AM free. If it takes a tempest over a drag queen to make that clear to the Democratic leadership, so be it.


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