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A Conversation with Assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll

by: deciminyan

Tue Jan 31, 2012 at 09:50:55 PM EST



To be an effective advocate for progressive causes and social issues, it is important that you know your opponents. Understanding their positions, especially those coming from smart people with whom you may disagree, will help you hone your position and strengthen your arguments.

With that in mind, Joey Novick and I travelled to Morris Township earlier today to have a conversation with Republican Assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll. Carroll is a libertarian in the Ron Paul mode, and while most of his views are outside of what we may consider the mainstream, he is firmly entrenched in his principals. Our discussion included slavery, marriage equality, the voting rights act, anti-bullying legislation, medical marijuana, and what to do about Camden's crime and poverty. Some of Carroll's thoughts may be surprising or even shocking.

deciminyan :: A Conversation with Assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll
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Really?? (0.00 / 0)
of all the principled conservatives you could have chosen, you interviewed one of the most reactionary elected officials in our state.
Carroll claims to be an expert on many things, here he is a "civil war expert." And yet, the way he continues to defend his ignorant view of the legacy of slavery is appalling.
I support dialogue, but there can be no dialogue with such an ideologue. If we remember, he was the sole member of the Assembly to oppose protecting children from bullies.

He's engaged Blue Jersey before (0.00 / 0)
MPC has been a part of the Blue Jersey world before, engaging in back and forth with us more than once.  No other one engages us, so why not start with Mike?

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Great Work! (0.00 / 0)
Cudos to Joey and Crew for an excellent interview.  It is important that we understand the motivation and perspective of the conservative mindset.  There are honorable conservatives and then there are authoritarian movement conservatives; and it is good to know the difference.


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I disagree (0.00 / 0)
It may be important that we understand all points of view, including the conservative mindset, but there is nothing honorable in being so rigidly inflexible as MPC.
His claim that those whose ancestors were kidnapped from their homes and put into slavery should be "grateful" for that sacrifice is disgusting.
I don't care what flawed conservative rationale he thinks justifies that statement. Its wrong, like many if not most positions espoused in this video. He is indifferent to the concerns of New Jersey residents and I wouldnt give him the time of day, even if he is willing to "engage."  

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OMG! This is for real? (4.00 / 3)
I actually decided to google "Michael Patrick Carroll" as I presumed this was an elaborate Joey Novick joke using an actor.  

mmgth

For reals, it's MPC. (4.00 / 1)
Reassuring you, that is actually Assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll, sitting for a chat with us at Blue Jersey.  

It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  

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I don't know, Rosi. (4.00 / 2)
Maybe mmgth is right. I never asked to see his papers. For all I know, it could have been a Kenyan impersonating an Irishman.

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Of coure ... (0.00 / 0)
Nobody's asking if it's the authentic Joey Novick ...

It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  

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More on Carroll (4.00 / 1)
There's a Facebook page called NJ District 25 Against Michael Patrick Carroll - they've been following him for a while now. MPC used to have a blog where he poured out his outrageous opinions on a regular basis. When he was (briefly) nominated for a judgeship, the blog was deleted - but this Facebook page had been quoting it for a while, so there's some record there. Some of the incredible Carroll quotes preserved there:

"You crank out a kid and you can't afford it, that's your problem."

"An armed populace is the greatest bulwark of freedom."

"Simply put, why would anyone in Newark give a damn about how much their schools cost, since they aren't paying a nickel for them? OF COURSE they build Taj Mahals; the schools are 'free'".

"Eliminating departments such as Black Studies, Africana Studies, Women and Gender studies, etc., and replacing them with real scholarship - as opposed to "Introduction to Victimology and Political Correctness 101" - could save millions while, at the same time, ensuring that people who attend college actually receive an education."

"Minimum wage laws...benefit the working poor essentially not at all, unless a suburban teen with a gas payment to support counts as 'poor.' And they indisputably destroy jobs."

It goes on and on....
http://www.facebook.com/njagai...


I weep (4.00 / 1)
for the Irish .

(Great job Joey and d-man!)


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He's Wrong on the Anti-Bullying Law (0.00 / 0)
As the chair of the Policy Committee for my school board, I read the whole thing. There are absolutely penalties for bullying. There are absolutely steps in place for helping the bully recognize his/her behavior and work to stop it. That's one of the great things about this bill--it recognizes that these are kids who need to learn how to behave.  

facebook (0.00 / 0)
He's always posting on Facebook. I give him credit for not hiding behind a staff all the time.

I just couldn't stand to read a lot of his posts and comments. His arrogance is chilling. He's never wrong and there is no compromising.

Of course, he doesn't care what we think about him. The voters in his district probably eat this stuff up and will continue to re-elect him until he retires.


Shorter MPC (0.00 / 0)
"I didn't say what I really meant to say, but it's your fault for not reading my mind."

Dear lord, libertarians are such an odd lot. People who are denied the chance to get married are nothing more than an intellectual exercise.

And he thinks people will move into Camden if you offer school vouchers. Oy.

I'll give him credit, though: he's not afraid of a debate. Excellent work Joey and deci.

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