QoTD: Christie goes to school

Why a joint statement? (4.00 / 1)

Everything that Christie has done to date has been enabled by Sweeney/Norcross and Oliver/Adubato, and while I understand that most of the general public does not pay attention to and is not aware of these kinds of inside baseball games, the rest of us do and it insults our intelligence when someone as respected by us all as Senator Weinberg allows her message to be sullied by someone as deserving of disrespect as Sweeney.  I also understand that one has to go along to get along and be as effective as Senator Weinberg is, but at some point in time, a line in the sand has to be drawn.

I know that Senator Weinberg had her reasons for voting for Sweeney when he stole the Senate Presidency from Dick Codey, including but not limited to the fact that when Joe Ferriero was trying to end her political career, Codey was on the wrong side, as well as the fact that she was (and still is) politically savvy enough to know which way the winds were blowing at the time, but there has to be a time to stand up against the Democratic leadership, especially when it has more or less ceded its party's majority status to the opposition.

That time may not be until the next leadership election takes place or more likely some time in 2013, but until then, I do not see what is accomplished by standing beside someone as despicable as Sweeney and lending him the credibility that you have earned (and he has not) through years of committed and dedicated service.

A Real Democrat should recognize the fact that there is no difference between the damage that Joe Ferriero did to the Democratic Party in Bergen County and the damage that Sweeney/Norcross and Oliver/Adubato have done and continue to do to the Democratic Party in New Jersey.  If anything, what the latter have done and continue to do has been far worse, because the stakes have been far higher and the impact has been far worse.

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by: Bertin Lefkovic @ Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 22:23:51 PM UTC

Far too LATE!! (4.00 / 1)

It is far too late for the Democrats of NJ, leadership is needed not cute quotes. NJ-CAN!! sign the petition to remove the convenient democrat

Paul Betzler

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by: defendcom @ Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 22:29:08 PM UTC

Yes sign a petition and become Wisconsin! (0.00 / 0)

The only thing preventing New Jersey from becoming Wisconsin
is the strength of the moderate wing of the Democratic Party led by Senate President Sweeney.

The petition drive by the radical left will only " aide and abet" the GOP.

Where will the radical left be under Kean and DeCroce?

NJ-CAN is ill conceived and way t o" left  "for mainstream Democrats and Independents.  

 

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by: firstamend07 @ Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 22:42:01 PM UTC

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Radical left? LOL (0.00 / 0)

I guess being a Christiecrat, Reagan Democrat, anyone to your left seems radical.

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by: 12mileseastofTrenton @ Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 18:39:38 PM UTC

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radical? (0.00 / 0)

Radical> the support of a position that does not fall into party lines. The moderate wing has already supplied us with middle-class hater Governor Christie.  

Paul Betzler

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by: defendcom @ Sat Sep 24, 2011 at 11:55:13 AM UTC

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Boo Hoo. I Hate Sweeney! (0.00 / 0)

Does it ever end on this site?

State Senator Weinberg stood with Senate President Sweeney for one reason. IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO IN ORDER TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT!

The continued whining by arm chair progressives will assure only one thing, the Progressive agenda ,or any compromise  towards  that agenda will be buried.

So stop crying about Sweeney and try to actually work towards getting some thing done.

Senator Weinberg is a lot smarter than most of the whiners in this site.    

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by: firstamend07 @ Wed Sep 14, 2011 at 22:35:30 PM UTC

firstamend07 (0.00 / 0)

You can characterize Senator Sweeney all you want. We still don't know whether he's paying you to write how wonderful he is on this site and wherever else you do that.

But, again, you don't know much about the people who write for this site. Call us all "armchair progressives" as often as you want. You look ridiculous doing it.  

It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  

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by: Rosi Efthim @ Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 02:41:46 AM UTC

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Why Paid? (0.00 / 0)

What is this continued nonsense about being paid?

Just because someone does not " toe the line" then it is assumed they must be a paid staffer?

I write what I believe.

I write what I feel.

I write my conviction.

Attacking my position is fine, attacking my credibility just because I disagree with some viewpoints on this site exposes people as no better than those they criticize.

Many on this site blindly hate Senate President Sweeney. They see him as never doing anything good for the working people of this State.

THOSE PEOPLE ARE WRONG AND I WILL CONTINUE TO EXPOSE THEM AS MERE " HATERS" .

I hope this site never twarts open discussion.  
 

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by: firstamend07 @ Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 10:35:53 AM UTC

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twarts (0.00 / 0)

I think you might be a twart.

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by: SmartyJones @ Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 19:00:13 PM UTC

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Let's chill out here (4.00 / 1)

The rhetoric is beginning to sound a little extreme. Why a "joint statement"?  Bergenfield is in the district I represent (tho it moves to 38 this election) and I was being "courteous" by welcoming the Gov to District 37.  Sen Sweeney has been the chief voice in criticizing the Repub education cuts during the recent school tours. Simple enough?
I was an outspoken critic of the way in which the "Pen-ben" was done, and I continue to be. However, BJ audience is aware of the tough campaign ahead.
We have anti-Christie/Koch Bros. rallying points with which we all agree, and I will actively involve myself in moving them forth whenever I agree with the Senate President or any other member of the Democratic caucus or the people I represent.

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by: Senator Loretta Weinberg @ Thu Sep 15, 2011 at 13:40:36 PM UTC