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New School Board Member Reacts to Christie's Education Radio Interview

by: newschoolboardmember

Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 09:15:55 AM EDT



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"Absurd."  "Political slush fund."  "Prevents innovation."  "Currying favor."  

That was Chris Christie on streaming radio yesterday, talking about teachers. Listen, and then I'll tell you what I think, as a newly-elected school board member:

Early on, in the conversation hosted by NJ School Board Association, he trotted out the now-debunked canard that only 17 tenured teachers have lost their jobs for poor performance.  We know that many poor teachers are either weeded out by not getting hired for the third year, or by self-selection (leaving the profession).  But it suits his purpose to blame tenure for poor teachers as if that's the real and only problem in poorly-functioning school districts.  His plan is to continue evaluating teachers even after they have earned tenure.  If they are rated "ineffective," then they lose tenure for the next year.  They can earn it back, but that's not guaranteed.  It's a great plan in his mind.

I suspect that Christie's real plan is to poison the well of teachers.  Make teaching, or getting ahead in the profession, so difficult, that most new teachers won't see the value of the union.  If joining becomes optional, then fewer and fewer will join and pay dues.  He called union dues a "political slush fund."  That's right, a political slush fund.  So, reducing that fund will reduce the influence of the profession and allow the hedge fund managers to take over.

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newschoolboardmember :: New School Board Member Reacts to Christie's Education Radio Interview
He also said this: "If you spend 5 minutes thinking about the teachers' union argument that NJ schools are functioning well, you can see the holes.  Even good schools aren't operating at peak effectiveness.  To think they are is absurd."  

I don't know of any teachers who believe their schools, even very good schools, are perfect and can't be improved.  So, aside from a red herring, I don't know why he mentioned that.  Except that it let him use the word "absurd."

He does love the idea of charter schools and vouchers for private schools.  For Christie, it's the non-union freedom of it all!  He said that these schools offer non-tenured and non-union ways for innovation.  We can see which innovations work and then add them to public schools.  Currently, he said, schools aren't adding those new ideas.  Where does he get this from?  They aren't?  Can some teachers here help me with that?  Have you come across some ideas developed in charter schools that you know about that were great, yet you rejected them because they came from an icky place?

The second to last question was "What is the role of school board members?"  That one is interesting to me as a newly-elected school board member.  Christie said that their role is important.  They need to be able to stand up for kids and their families, to be "agents of change" for them, not "curry favor" with the union.  I beg to differ.  As is typical, it's black and white for the governor.  But the world isn't black and white.  Teachers and the unions are agents of change, too.  I believe that the teachers in my district are smart and tough.  They work every day to educate our kids so they will be productive members of society.  We're all in this together.

In all, I was struck by how much vitriol he has for teachers and the union.  He was calm and composed, but his language was dripping with contempt.  He really hates the idea of unions and a profession offering the best teachers tenure.

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Question... (0.00 / 0)
Maybe Jazzman can answer as well...

If charter schools recieve only 90% of the funding of regular schools and leave 10% behind.

Isn't an economic advantage to the regular public schools to have charters in the district?

I realize that maginal transfer of a few students hurts initially, but if a sizeable population moves, there's economies of scale that can be advantageous, no?



"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


A Charter attempted a start-up (0.00 / 0)
In my district.  Recently, it stopped, as it couldn't attract enough students.  Our Superintendent was thrilled.  I guess the feeling is that any child taken out means less money for all.  But, I'm new.  Much to learn!

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The key to understanding this: (4.00 / 2)
You must understand one critical idea to understand why charter school funding hurts public schools:

It doesn't cost the same amount to educate all children. A child with special needs costs far more to educate than a "normal" child. Most of the specialists in a school are there to provide services to special needs kids: occupational therapists, physical therapists, speech therapists, psychologists, reading specialists, math specialists, adaptive PE teachers, ELL (English Language Learners) teachers, gifted teachers... they are there to serve the population of special needs children. And that doesn't even include the neediest children, who are often placed out-of-district at great expense ($100,000 isn't unheard of).

Also keep in mind that many personnel who serve the general population inordinately spend their time with children who are likely classified as special needs: school nurses, assistant principals, guidance counselors, etc. You could argue many of these people wouldn't be hired a district without special needs kids.

As we saw in EdReform101, these children are far less likely to attend charter schools than public schools. So the charter takes the "cheaper" kids, and leaves the district with the "expensive" kids.

This is the biggest challenge school districts face from charter funding.

One other point: economies of scale are unlikely in the small districts that characterize NJ's suburbs. If we had county-wide districts, perhaps there would be less of a concern.

So, if you're very pro-charter, you probably should be very pro-consolidation as well. Just a thought.

http://jerseyjazzman.blogspot.com


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Thanks (0.00 / 0)
I appreciate the explanation.

[ Parent ]
Appreciate it as well... (0.00 / 0)
and I get the poiint about the different populations.

But are the population differences by design? I understand there may be other reasons they are what they are, but the charters do have to take everyone who applies in the lottery, don't they?

In other words, they can't cherry pick their populations legally, can they? Not saying it doens't happen, but just it's not supposed to, is it?


"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


[ Parent ]
Whether it is designed to.. (4.00 / 1)
... or not isn't the point.

The populations are not the same. Debating why is important, but it doesn't change the facts as they are.

Again, read the series. The evidence is overwhelming - the populations are not the same.

Lotteries are nice, but it's not as if everyone enters the lottery. The lottery in and of itself is a filter.

In addition: would you send your special needs child to a school that did not offer services for that child? A charter does not have to offer those services.

It is most likely self-selection, but the critical point is this: it's happening. The populations are not the same.

http://jerseyjazzman.blogspot.com


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8% (0.00 / 0)
8% of charter school children are designated special needs vs. 16% for the public school population.  Some argue 16% is inflated.  Conversely, some argue charters are more likely to divert students from a special needs designation.

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