Senator Diane Allen Finds Her Inner Clarence Thomas

Thanks to Sweeney and the Christiecrats (4.00 / 1)

Had Sweeney one ounce of soul, one inch spine or one iota of character, he wouldn't have sold out on public workers for NOTHING in return. (He wouldn't have sold out public workers at all but at least he could have made even a modest attempt at redemption but maybe the Nordubato Cabal held the leash too tight?.)

If you're going to sacrifice the fatted calf (ReTHUGlican view of the public workers) at least dom more than pray for, in fact SEEK some quid pro quo on the friggin budget!!

Sweeney is worse than a reTHUGlican, he is a Christiecrat with a Nordubato complex.

These last two days should have never had to happen. When Sweeney took the Christie-Bat to public workers, he could have tried to get an assurance that the poor, women and sick weren't getting thrown on the same pyre.

In the end, one more massive failure of leadershipo to lay at the feet of stephen Sweeney.

If we don't stand together, we fall alone
That didn't last long.

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by: Couch Potato Politics @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 00:36:01 AM UTC

Or (3.00 / 1)

Sweeney didn't have to do anything and those other bills never would have seen the light of day, let alone be shepherded throu by him for his boss, Norcross.

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.

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by: Adam L @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 00:39:23 AM UTC

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Sweeney also hurts Dems (3.50 / 2)

when he plays the "it's all about me" game on education privatization.

Protecting public schools is not about another Punch-n-Judy show between two  old white men in suits.

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by: sayitaintso @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 01:16:57 AM UTC

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Couch Potato Politics (0.00 / 0)

Can we lay off the ReTHUGlican label? I really do appreciate your outrage, and god knows I can hurl the acid pretty well myself. But there's something about that particular bastardization of their party name that I don't think helps make substantive argument.

I'm just sayin ...  

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by: Rosi Efthim @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 02:59:58 AM UTC

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mea Culpa. (0.00 / 0)

Please edit as you see fit.
I can't revisit "Comments" to edit from my account.

If we don't stand together, we fall alone
That didn't last long.

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by: Couch Potato Politics @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 03:12:17 AM UTC

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No, no, no (4.00 / 1)

It's no problem. I'm not taking down any comment! It's in the category of: No biggie. It's just one of those things I think we can focus better not doing. Thanks!

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by: Rosi Efthim @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 03:19:25 AM UTC

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How About (0.00 / 0)

the 3.00 thingy, which is getting real boring and not related to the comments involved.  You can edit that.

And yeah, I can add the 4.00 thingy.  Often I think a comment is just a comment and doesn't need a rating.

You were the one who gave me a lecture about ratings, after you just joined and I had been here about a million years and through a million word wars.  Ever heard of Creed Pogue?  I didn't think so.

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by: SmartyJones @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 06:45:13 AM UTC

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SmartyJones (0.00 / 0)

I can't tell who your comment's directed to? Me?

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by: Rosi Efthim @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 10:10:57 AM UTC

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Rosi (0.00 / 0)

If my comment were indented, you might think so, no?

You know who Creed iis, yes?

You don't sprinkle comments with 3.00's for no appaent reason, do you?

I realize people are free to rate comments.  Often I don't understand why, when there seems to be no apparent reason.

I think it was Jeff (with you) who talked about ratings and comments in opposition to something someone else wrote.  I appreciated it.

I'm not going to become the "word police" or the ratings police, so I've sorta stopped.  Sometimes I get in a don't fuck with me state.  Why would someone write "pussy" in an otherwise well thought out and well written diary?  Why would anyone write Sweeney is Christie's bitch in a haiku?  Sounds so MSNBC Lockup.

Sorry.  Guess I'm not in 2011.  I don't text or tweet.  

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by: SmartyJones @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 12:44:43 PM UTC

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Good points Smarty... (0.00 / 0)

there are far better terms to describe the traits to which those terms refer.

(I'm probably as guilty as next guy, but needed you to point it out)

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai

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by: William Weber (WjcW) @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 12:58:38 PM UTC

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Smarty (0.00 / 0)

Well, I agree to a degree. I'm not sure I remember the convo you're remembering - I do know who Creed is, though - but people are free to uprate or downrate comments here. The only proviso is fairness. That means, no downrating simply because you don't agree or don't "like" the person (I know, right? sounds so "middle school"...). Also no troll rating on comments not written by trolls. (By the way, no - I can't change other people's ratings).

"3" ratings are perfectly cool here.

As to "pussy" and "bitch" I asked the person who wrote the former to stand down on that particular language (but did not remove it). But making somebody their bitch is a pretty specific piece of slang. I guess that doesn't concern me as much.  

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by: Rosi Efthim @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 13:05:02 PM UTC

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Like (0.00 / 0)

"like"  is so Facebook.   It's, like, I'm the one who is "middle school."  Hell, I remember when there were card catalogues in libraries.  I remember when there were libraries.

And William, I'm also guilty of bad taste at times.  I like to fool around with colloquialisms, but being someone's bitch is not one of them.

OK, convo over.  Nothing to see here - move along.  Back to Diane Allen.

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by: SmartyJones @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 13:50:30 PM UTC

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Repeat after me (3.00 / 1)

There is no such thing as a moderate Republican.

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by: 12mileseastofTrenton @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 00:54:47 AM UTC

yes there is... (3.67 / 3)

Today, they are called "Democrats"

Blog: http://www.deciminyan.org

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by: deciminyan @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 01:01:11 AM UTC

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Hey Rosi (4.00 / 1)

So it wasn't what Senator Allen (and all her robot cohorts did), it's always about Sweeney? I didn't think we should have sold out the unions; I did think the health and pension bills should have been separated, but what the Republicans did these last two days, was exhausting, cruel, nasty and they are a bunch of scared toy soldiers.

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by: Senator Loretta Weinberg @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 02:17:39 AM UTC

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You are correct. (0.00 / 0)

As usual Hon. Senator. Republican is as Republican does. What true blue Dems want to say to Sweeney and Oliver is "You're Fired!" from the Nordubato puppet show.

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by: FreeDem @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 02:32:36 AM UTC

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Not Rosi's editorialization (0.00 / 0)

Greetings Senator,

The reference to Sweeney was mine, not Rosi's and, yes, I stand by it.

Sweeney is no democrat and his failure of leadership has gotten NJ into the mess it is in now with the assualt on the poor, women, unions and children of NJ and we should NEVER forget that and I won't let his failures and subsequent damages caused by them go unanswered.

I have nothing but respect and admiration for you and will continue to do so but Stephen Sweeney deserves to be called out and wear the letter of shame for every attack his failures as a "Democratic Leader" in the Senate have allowed and directly caused.

If we don't stand together, we fall alone
That didn't last long.

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by: Couch Potato Politics @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 02:51:12 AM UTC

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Senator Weinberg (4.00 / 1)

We have different levels of expectation for Democrats, particularly Democratic leaders, than we do for Republicans.

It's completely consistent to abhor some of the things Republican legislators have said the last few days - and also to bristle at Democrats, when it's clear that decisions are being made not on evidence, or best policies, but because arrangements were made based on obligations to people nobody voted for, or because core principles of the party are cast off like they mean nothing.

It's an entirely different kind of dissatisfaction. And it can go on at the same time. It's no less strongly felt, and no less legitimate.  

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by: Rosi Efthim @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 02:56:03 AM UTC

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Republicans are Republicans and (4.00 / 1)

that's how it is supposed to be. But for that to work Democrats need to be Democrats - and right now, they simply aren't.

The Nordubato Party is in control and as long as that is the case the majority of the Democratic party has no voice in government.

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by: DSWright @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 03:21:52 AM UTC

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Well put (4.00 / 1)

Indeed - well said.

BTW, Sen Weinberg: we are very, very grateful for those of you in the Democratic party who stand on principal.

http://jerseyjazzman.blogspot.com

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by: Jersey Jazzman @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 03:34:30 AM UTC

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That's for damned sure. (0.00 / 0)

Deciminyan will have more on that, by the way, in the morning.  

It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  

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by: Rosi Efthim @ Wed Jul 13, 2011 at 03:42:17 AM UTC

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