Wow. Just wow.

I thought Roman Catholics (0.00 / 0)

accepted evolution and an old universe.

Guess he's running for President.

Frank LoBiondo Record and Jon Runyan Watch

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by: Hopeful @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 16:47:48 PM UTC

The RC Position is somewhat nuanced (4.00 / 1)

http://www.catholic.com/librar...

What it boils down to is, the Church has no official position on creationism versus evolution as long as a Catholic you believe God is directly responsible. In my post-Vatican II Catholic grammar school youth, we didn't pay that much attention to science anyway but we were certainly not taught creationism.

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by: denniscmcgrath @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 17:01:05 PM UTC

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We were taught creation in Catholic school (0.00 / 0)

but it was in religion class, not science class.

Blog: Pick's Place

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by: jeffpickens @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 20:01:05 PM UTC

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I really don't remember (0.00 / 0)

dwelling on Adam and Eve even in religion classes. I certainly was never taught 6 days and a rest 24 hrs. exactly. We would have focused on original sin. But 1963-1970 were fairly liberal at least in my neck of the woods. We had a science curriculum but it tended to stick to what was presently observable - the nine plants, not how they got there. Igneous, sedimentary and (uuum-oh, yeah, metamorphic) rocks and how they were created, not so much the Big Bang. I'm sure no one in the faculty ever espoused a 'young earth' POV.  But the teachers, bless them all,  generally had neither a science nor a mathematics background - I'm convinced the nun who introduced the 'new math' to my class was reading the textbook for the first time the night before she was presenting it to us. We did a lot of reading and writing and grammar - sentence diagramming, anyone?

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by: denniscmcgrath @ Fri May 13, 2011 at 12:12:06 PM UTC

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Creationism (0.00 / 0)

I'd say Gov. Christie is at least as much a neo-conservative as a Roman Catholic. And those folks like to pitch to the donors whose giving is driven by their religious feeling.  

It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  

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by: Rosi Efthim @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 17:17:36 PM UTC

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Like all bullies ... (0.00 / 0)

Christie is a coward.

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by: huntsu @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 17:02:14 PM UTC

CC is gonna run. (0.00 / 0)

I betcha.

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by: denniscmcgrath @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 17:11:33 PM UTC

I can't conclude that. (0.00 / 0)

I think Christie's modus operandi is to exploit the GOP's leadership and inspiration gap as long as possible into this cycle, raise money, build up chits and favors, and haul cash into the NJ GOP for his wish list of Republican legislators in '11. I also think Christie just loves to be asked to dance. He flirts, he sashays, he does everything he can do to get noticed.

But we still don't know if he even can dance.  

It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  

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by: Rosi Efthim @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 17:22:59 PM UTC

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Also - (0.00 / 0)

If he was taking his acto on the road full-time as a 2012 Presidential candidate, it's hard for me to believe he would leave Kim "Amateur Hour" Guadagno in charge of his New Jersey legacy.  

It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  

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by: Rosi Efthim @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 17:24:42 PM UTC

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Sashaying? (0.00 / 0)

Now I can't get THAT picture out of my head--Thanks!!

On topic: what the f#@% does that mean: None of your business?  He's the governor.  His Dept of Education has a curriculum that mandates the teaching of evolution.  He actually thinks we aren't entitled to his opinion.  Schmuck.

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by: the pollster @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 17:54:37 PM UTC

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Reminds me of... (0.00 / 0)

...Charles Durning's character in the movie, "Best Little Whorehouse in Texas".  In fact, Durning's character does a song and dance number in the movie that I could imagine Christie doing, albeit behind closed doors and when he is not pretending that he is Tom Cruise in "Risky Business", singing Bob Seger's "Old Time Rock and Roll" in his sunglasses and underwear.

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by: Bertin Lefkovic @ Fri May 13, 2011 at 05:07:29 AM UTC

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Yeah, but.. (0.00 / 0)

..since - to paraphrase Mary McCarthy - every word out of his mouth is a lie, including "and" and "the", the more he says he's not running, the more I don't believe him.

Blog: Pick's Place

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by: jeffpickens @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 20:05:19 PM UTC

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Well, evolution is taught in the public schools (0.00 / 0)

So, I can see why it could give him pause.

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by: 12mileseastofTrenton @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 17:29:15 PM UTC

Which foot does he dig with? (0.00 / 0)

Georges Lemaître, an RC priest, came up with what would be known as the big bang theory.

And he wasn't burned at the stake.  (I learned this at Wikipedia College.  If it's good enough for P. Mulshine . . .)  

Then again creationist, William Jennings Bryan was not crucified on a cross of gold.

What did the CC learn at the RC school he went to?  (Mine was okay with real science.)

Is CC really RC?  (Please insert your own cola joke.)

John Paul II had no prob with evo.-Why does pope of NJ balk?        

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by: Nowlan @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 23:02:42 PM UTC

Christie is, as always, disingenuous (0.00 / 0)

He wouldn't dare tell the truth because it would anger his base of anti-reality creationists who think that the ONLY answer to how man became is "Magic".

Christie is many things but "Anti-science" isn't one of them. He only defends his position as a "GOP Darling" through ommission and dismissive huffery.

Even his stand on aborton is flexible based on how one hears his words.

If we don't stand together, we fall alone
That didn't last long.

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by: Couch Potato Politics @ Thu May 12, 2011 at 23:12:26 PM UTC

I like that answer (3.00 / 1)

It was a poorly formed question and got the answer that most prospective Presidential candidates should have the courage to give, which is that their personal and private religious beliefs are "none of our business".

Had the question been "Does @GovChristie think that creationism/intelligent design should be taught alongside or instead of evolution in public school science classes?" and he had answered similarly, I think that we would be more justified in our outrage and snark.

Regardless of what we might think of Christie as Governor, we cannot deny the fact that he is a smart politician.  He has played a far-too-large percentage of the people of NJ and the national Republican leadership and rank-and-file membership as well as anybody that I have seen in my lifetime.

If someone thinks that they are going to back him into a corner with a tough question, the first thing that they have to do is actually ask him a tough question, framing it in a way that does not allow him to evade it as easily as he evaded this one.

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by: Bertin Lefkovic @ Sat May 14, 2011 at 17:45:45 PM UTC