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Calling All Old People To Make Chris Christie Seem Popular

by: johnleesandiego

Tue Nov 23, 2010 at 08:04:48 AM EST



The results of a Fairleigh Dickinson-PublicMind Poll of New Jersey voters suggests that the number of people who approve of Governor Christie's behavior is greater than the number of people who disapprove. The poll also suggested that the number of people with an favorable opinion of the New Jersey Education Association is just 40% of voters (the percentage of negative opinions is about the same, with nearly 10% undecided)

But who is being polled? (Most likely old people)

The inherent problem with most of these polls is that most, if not all of the calls, go to people with those old fashioned land lines, who tend to be older, more set in their ways, and more conservative. Younger, and more active, people all have mobile phones. Ask most 20 and 30 somethings and the last time they had a mobile phone was when they lived with their parents.

When I first moved to the Garden State I was told that in order to register to vote, have a library card, and register for the Nutley School System a local (Nutley) number was required. Doesn't the title deed, driver's license, water bill, tax bill, utility bill etc prove residency? Apparently not. I was told by the Board of Education that if my mobile phone was a NJ number they might accomodate me, but why would I give up the phone numbers I have had for 12 years? My California numbers were MY NUMBERS. The library was accomodating to get a first card but I could not get it renewed after a year (so they lost me as a patron and donor).

My personal stories of frustration in the townships is not about the sillyness of Nutley, but rather about the generational misgivings about technology.  I was shut out of participating in the community simply because I did not want to submit to early 20th Century technology and instead chose to remain the very model of a modern major gentleman. With the exception of the library, I won.

But here is where I become a symbol of the problem with polling and the political process. Having only mobile phones, chances are I will not receive any poll calls, and most likely others who are younger and mobile, will not get them either. So the most of these polls have an inherent flaw - the sample is highly targeted toward one mindset.

There is a silver lining, at least for residents of New Jersey. Governor Christie is such a popularity whore that he believes that everyone adores him and to hell with everyone else. As his cuts to programs for veterans, the disabled, the mentally retarded, and schools take hold no amount of flawed polling will hide the fact that the emperor has no clothes.  

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Why? (0.00 / 0)
Would you assume that young people don't give their cell numbers as phone numbers for voter registration, magazines, etc, etc, and any other databases that might be used as by pollsters?

It doesn't say anywhere that the polls are generated from strictly 'the white pages' or land lines.

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


ask the pollsters (0.00 / 0)
Quinnipac is notorious for land line only calls as as most of the robo-call surveys

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So, this explains why... (4.00 / 1)
...all those polls a month ago predicting big Democratic losses in the midterm elections were so wrong.  

yessirree! (0.00 / 0)
until I moved to the Garden State I did not realize how foreign the concept of not having a landline was.  

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Overstating the cell phone thing (4.00 / 1)
I think you may be overstating this.

As Nate Silver points out at fivethirtyeight, both the migration of polling firms to models that include mobile phones, and also the interpretation of data generated by landline-only and landline-plus-cell sampling, are in transition. Landline-only polls can be "fixed" by demographic weighting. It's also true that it's easy to miss when and if that is applied (at least it is for me).

Landline-only polling (which many companies do) may indeed undersample a demographic that may skew more Democrat. But that's only a skew, and the demographic would also suggest that cell phone users have the bucks to carry the communication in their pocket.

What also bothers me here is the wild overstatement that who's being polled in landline polls are "mostly old people" and that cell users are "younger and more active" (what, we talking rollerblading here? world travel? what?).  

It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  


Democratic Demographic? (0.00 / 0)
hmmm, I think a younger demographic isn't one that is neccessarily democratic, instead they are a group that is more easily defined as fed up with "this is how we've always done it" :D  

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active (0.00 / 0)
willing to move about both physically and idealogically

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As a younger (30) cell phone only user (4.00 / 1)
The last time I had a landline was when I lived with my parents.

I was polled just once, and that poll was when I still lived with my parents, and the pollster was not looking for me, but my father (he did end up talking to me instead).  I did not put my phone number on my voter registration form and do not receive political calls unless Garden State Equality is inviting me to the statehouse.  

I am a reliable Democratic voter (I usually vote straight ticket) who votes in every general and primary.  Yet I'll be passed over by a pollster.  

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it will be a problem soon... (0.00 / 0)
...but so far polls do pretty well.  After all, under 30 voters tend not to vote so that minimizes the effect. (Also, there's usually not so dramatic a young/old split as there is on Obama, so it's not as big an effect on someone like Christie.)  



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