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The disaster in the fifth

by: Adam L

Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 12:05:47 PM EDT



Two years ago, I drafted a post (edited by the good members of Blue Jersey) with a rundown of what happened in the 2008 Congressional election in New Jersey's fifth district.  We deconstructed the voting trends in each of the four counties, discussed how outreach and messaging (and money), as well as a different strategy, are needed to (1) win Bergen County, where most of the votes are and (2) close the gap in Passaic, Warren and Sussex Counties:
But this is a low information district with an inherent Republican advantage, where a large majority of people never hear a stump speech or listen to debates.  And that is especially true in the rural areas that count for roughly one-third of the votes.  So it's clear that very heavy handed, yet accurate, tactics must be used - and used consistently in a way that will not only reach these voters, but close the gap in Sussex and Warren Counties by 1/3 to 1/2 of the roughly 25,000 deficits of 2008 and 2004.

Now, I will admit this post may be a bit more subjective. But that's because since 2008 (and out of that diary), I helped start "Retire Garrett", a grassroots effort with outreach in all four counties to help recruit a candidate, solicit donors, craft message, coordinate outreach, and try to tackle the very tough feat of ousting Garrett in a fairly Republican leaning district.  I (with other volunteers) figured this would be a 2 cycle effort, but worth pursuing.
Adam L :: The disaster in the fifth
This group of activists I worked with helped recruit Tod Theise (we met with a handful of potential interested parties and reached out to a number of others who expressed little to no interest in running - especially this cycle, and we were very grateful Tod stepped up).  We discussed potential strategies, message strategy and many other aspects of campaigning. And for reasons I'll discuss below, the campaign decided on one strategy and direction which I (and others) believed would make victory impossible, so we discontinued our involvement in the campaign by early to mid August. So, there's some personal slant to this post, but it's because we were there, and we watched as good brainstorming and strategy efforts were ignored. We saw our fears validated by the election results.

Personally, the fact that Tod was from Warren County was a big plus to me for this cycle as it made any charge of BCDO-ism impossible.  The campaign largely failed to capitalize on its lack of ties to BCDO.

Some of what went wrong here was out of Theise's control; some was very much in the campaign's control. There were tactical decisions made by BCDO and by the Theise campaign that probably have more to do with the results than anything else  - results only stunning to those who paid little to no attention to this race.  These 2 items are detailed below:

The Theise strategy

The campaign articulated a strategy of outreach mainly to Republicans and independents, including the tea partiers, with a message centered on tax fairness for NJ (a message that if not  feasible to put into play, did resonate well), tying Garrett to the financial mess (also good one, but sticking less than it should have). The campaign's stated strategy to focus on Sussex and Warren Counties (which combined provide about 30% of the total vote) and then hope to carry Bergen County, bringing out Dems with less outreach.

I'll spare you too many details of my opinion of this strategy and direction, much discussed by our team in spring and summer. Clearly, the path chosen failed miserably.  You can't win the 5th without winning Bergen, and a strategy that ignores major donors, lacks formal infrastructure, ignores major interest groups, blows off netroots and sticks with a campaign manager (Cristobal Slobodzian) who promised to raise $400,000, then disappeared for months and raised little, didn't open a Bergen County office till almost October, won't be taken seriously no matter how earnest the candidate is or good the message. This can't be blamed on external factors.

Now, Tod's a good guy, a good communicator with something to say. But imagine a town council-level campaign for a federal campaign.  The aim was to increase vote totals in Sussex and Warren, yet Garrett got his highest totals overall, breaking 63% in Bergen, 66% in Passaic, 67% in Warren and breaking 72% in Sussex.  Want a contrast? 2008:

In fact, in each of the three elections, Garrett pulled down 61% of the vote in Warren County, was never below 64% in Sussex County, was between 56.9% and 58.1% in Passaic County and got 53.9%, 51.4% and 53.3% in Bergen County.

Obviously, there's more. But, I'll just close this part of the diary by saying this was a huge step backwards in many ways.

The BCDO

From the outset, the BCDO was looking to punt on this election in order to try and save their own county candidates.  This was evident as early as February 2009, when a "Retire Garrett Town Hall" meeting drew activists, prior Candidates, and local elected officials from Sussex and Bergen counties.  Quick agreement Garrett is horrible and has to go, it was quickly clear BCDO had no interest in running, recruiting, or raising money for a candidate.

As 2009 rolled on, some BCDO higher ups went so far as to indicate that a congressional race further motivate Republicans to the voting booth; they'd rather have no congressional candidate than risk hurting their campaigns.  This was on the heels of the very messy Ferriero trial, the split in the BCDO in terms of new leadership, a 3rd and 4th place finish in the 2009 Freeholder race and an activist base that was already skeptical of what would come next.

It was hard enough to find a candidate willing to run in these circumstances. It was my view all along that the right type of candidate with the right message, from a different county was a boon given BCDO's problems, it took a major grassroots effort to get BCDO even to agree to put anyone on the top line of the ballot.  Needless to say, there was not going to be any coordination or support in terms of money, but potentially to voter lists and other resources (I was not privy to any discussions between Theise and BCDO, however, I think limited promises were not kept, and think that there was little leverage able to be used by a candidate with no money from outside of the County in this cycle anyway).

For better or worse, BCDO is the dominant political organization in the District when it comes to who runs for office - certainly in Bergen, and to a lesser extent for congressionals. To not believe in a candidate on the merits is one thing.  But to actively work against the very idea of a candidate, and promote the idea there is no candidate, as BCDO did, is stunning.

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In conclusion, BCDO did create obstacles in this race; a weakened BCDO may actually benefit future candidates. That said, redistricting will likely have a substantial impact on how the layout of the Fifth changes. Therefore the strategies of the past few elections are almost useless going forward - at least until we see the new Districts.  When redistricting occurs, we'll certainly provide additional analysis on the impact on Congressional races and candidates.  However, it's evident BCDO problems existed long before the Theise campaign started.  And a campaign that raised less than $20,000 with little voter outreach or formal infrastructure, that spent most of its efforts courting unlikely voters, is one with a doomed strategy.

What we do know is that 33% is the floor for Democratic support in the (currently drawn) District - that is, when a candidate has no money, no viable strategy, no organizational support, no infrastructure and no means to get a message out - this is what can be expected.  A small silver lining but at least now we know....

With redistricting on the horizon and the wipeout in County elections, it is evident that BCDO needs to regroup and transform itself into a formidable and credible organization, most importantly in a way that convinces Bergen residents that it's a fresh start, with new goals and direction that working for the benefit of Bergen's many residents (and the 5th CD), not the few insiders who steered the organization into the ground.

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the "good" news (4.00 / 1)
is that with this wave election there was no chance of winning even if it was an excellent campaign.  

That said, and bearing in mind the redistricting issue, I think this is very valuable to assess what else could be done.  

Frank LoBiondo Record and Jon Runyan Watch


redistricting is the Democrats' only hope (3.00 / 1)
It is unlikely, but nevertheless possible that Scott Garrett could be placed into the same district as Bill Pascrell, Jr. or Steve Rothman.  Aside from that, you are not going to find a candidate or message or strategy on the democratic side that is going to defeat Garrett in anything resembling the current 5th CD.  Mind you, I am not saying that you shouldn't try, but that you should be prepared to fail every time that you try.

In a democratic republic such as ours, particularly one where likeminded people tend to concentrate themselves geographically, teabagging wingnuts like the one who inhabit the 5th CD are just as entitled to representation as he progressives who live in the 6th and 12th CDs and the African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans who live in minority-majority districts, guaranteed by the Voting Rights Act.

It would be ideal if the people tasked with the responsibility of redistricting would be required to draw congressional and legislative districts that are as competitive as possible, but in our state and our country, the ideal is often a fantasy. Redistricting is controlled by insiders beholden to party bosses on both sides and there are very few activists on either side with the ability or desire to break their control over this process.

In my opinion, that is the only way that you are ever going to "Retire Garrett". Undoubtedly, the BCDO needs to be reformed, but its lack of interest in the 5th CD is by far the least of its problems.  Even if progressives took control of the BCDO after the next county committee elections and made Carol Hoernlein or Rocco Mazza their Chairperson, there would be nothing they could do to make the 5th more competitive if this didn't already happen through redistricting.

Conversely, if Joe Ferriero regains control over the BCDO and it becomes even more corrupt than it ever was before, but through redistricting, Garrett and Rothman were in the same district and it contained all of Bergen County (as if such a district was even possible), there would be more than enough resources dedicated towards winning that district.


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maximizing competitive districts (0.00 / 0)
I think there's something to be said for having some districts be safer than others, just to lend some stability to things. For instance, lets say NJ was split into 13 districts, with as close to an even partisan division as possible. Since Republican candidates got a bit over 40k more votes Tuesday, that would mean they would have won all thirteen seats.
Yes, I know it's a ridiculous example, since any number of things would have played out differently with such districts. But I shudder to think how many seats we could have lost across the country if every state was districted to maximize competitiveness. It could be the difference between having a bad night, and having a catastrophic, party-crippling night.  

I couldn't disagree with you more (0.00 / 0)
I believe that if more districts were competitive, more people would be engaged by the political process and be better informed, making both policy-making and politics less dysfunctional and elections less subject to waves benefitting either Democrats or Republicans.

That said, this is never going to happen because of the way our country has evolved both demographically and geographically, so there are undoubtedly going to be safe Democratic districts and safe Republican districts, but aside from those safe districts that are unavoidable, every effort should be made to create clean and competitive districts.


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Comparative analysis (0.00 / 0)
Adam -- We all knew that the 5th presented tremendous challenges even under the best circumstances.  This year's election was hardly a best case scenario.  In fact, it was the worst defeat for Democrats imaginable.  No strategy would have worked because Garrett ran against Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama -- not me.  In fact, he never mentioned my name during the campaign.  The GOP was united in taking back the House and taking Obama to the woodshed.  I was taken out of the equation.

That said, before attributing epic fail status to the election in the 5th, it is enlightening to look at how other Dem challengers performed in comparison to me.

In the 2nd District, Gary Stein lost by a 66-31% margin.

In the 4th District, George Kleinhendler lost by a 69-28% margin.

In the 11th District, Doug Herbert lost by a 67-31% margin.

Even Ed Potosnak, with all the funding and support he received from national party and progressive organizations, lost to Leonard Lance -- who faced a strong tea party challenge in the primary -- by 18 %.  This was quite a step back from previous elections.

In the 5th District, I lost to Garrett by a margin of 65-33% -- a better performance than any other Dem challenger excluding Potosnak.  The reality is that I was faced with the following uniquely debilitating challenges:

> Absolutely no support from the Democratic Party at the national, state or county level;

> The BCDO, that was actively sabotaging my candidacy;

> No support from my Chair in Warren County who is little more than a GOP lackey;

> A Democratic Party that tanked in epic fashion across the nation;

> A Bergen County ticket that imploded to the point I actually outperformed them in many towns, including Ridgewood;

> Sussex County ran NO county-wide candidates and virtually no local candidates;  

> Sheriff Spezziale, who had committed to pulling the Dem ticket to victory, dropped out of the Passic race and took $1.2 million in campaign cash with him -- this gutted our efforts in Passaic County which were based on his very strong coattails;

> Warren County had no Freeholder candidate running;

> I had to work full time at a very demanding job during the campaign to support my family, including a daughter in college;

> Other than The Record, the newspapers in the District ignored the campaign and gave Garrett a free pass.    

Any analysis of the election in the 5th has to take these factors into account.  Looking at the race in proper perspective and comparing the performances of other Dem challengers,  my performance was relatively strong in an extremely bad year.  It wasn't a matter of strategy.  It was a matter of a perfect storm in which no candidate could have flourished.    

That said, thank you for all your help and support during the campaign.  The Democrats need intelligent, principled voices like yours more than ever.


Tod (4.00 / 1)
So you have assigned no responsibility at all to yourself.  OK, gotcha.  And how did most of these factors come into play only for you and not for any of the other candidates?  So you had a full time job and other responsibilities.  Other candidates still worked and had other responsibilities as well, and even still, that is a mere excuse and more reason that the campaign should have had the organization and infrastructure that we pushed so hard for during the spring and summer.

For starters, let's look at other races.

For starters, NJ-5 was ALWAYS more competitive than NJ-2, NJ-11 and NJ-4.

NJ-2 - LoBiondo was below 62% only once since 2002 and did better in 2002 and 2004 than he did this year.

NJ-4 - Smith received 66% or 67% every cycle since 2002.

NJ-11 - Rodney never received below 62% and also did better in 2002 and 2004 than this year.

Even NJ-7 was relatively similar in terms of Democratic vote.  Ed received 41% this year and Stender received 42% in 2008.  And before Stender's closer race in 2006, the Democratic vote in the District was 42%.

While you are correct that there were external factors, you have failed to take into account anything related to the campaigng itself, many of the concerns that I, and many others, shared over the course of the campaign or any actions or decisions of the campaign.  How can the campaign not be in any way responsible?  Where do you reflect internally to see what could have been done differently?  Better?

The BCDO gave no money to Paul or to Dennis.  How do you explain how the President of the United States being in this district to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars and you didn't even know?  Wasn't invited?   Didn't get a dime?

Do you think that if you had raised a few hundred thousand on your own that maybe, just maybe, there would have  been more money coming in and having the exposure that Ed did?

I want to win this District.  But I am realistic and if you are not going to look inward at the campaign and continue - as you did during the campaign - to ignore everything and everyone that doesn't clap louder and lash out instead - then you will continue to make the same mistakes you have made.

This is in no way personal - as I said in the diary.  This is realistic and maybe it is too soon, but it would be best for you to stop making excuses and start to reflect on just how this campaign was run.

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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I take responsibility, Adam (0.00 / 0)
I am ultimately responsible for the loss.  I've already said that publicly in other venues.  And there are many things I would have done differently.  

Your analysis omitted critical factors such as Spezziale's exit,  the lack of any candidates in Sussex to provide local support and the Express-Times/NJ Herald failing to meaningfully cover the race or bother to publish my press releases).  These factors had a tremendous impact on the race.  

You will have your chance to run a candidate or, possibly, run yourself in 2012.  I wish you luck.    

   


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Passaic (0.00 / 0)
was 7% of the total vote and 15,000 total votes.  To say this had a material effect on the campaign is patently ridiculous.  Even if the results flipped and you won 2/3 of the vote in Passaic, that would still get you to under 37% total.

YOU were my candidate, and you knew that.  This is not about "my candidate", as I was 100% behind you - if you recall, I was the one who convinced you to stay in the race and fight when the BCDO was trying to keep you off the ticket.

Me, not anyone else.  

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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I can't see how Speziale had anything to do with your performance in Passaic County. (4.00 / 1)
The countywide candidates in Bloomingdale, Ringwood, Wanaque, and West Milford all performed fairly well. Bloomingdale even elected a Democrat as their Mayor. Assigning blame to Speziale's departure is a foolish and outlandish statement.  


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West Milford (3.00 / 1)
Every D, local or countywide (including Mr. coattails Duffy), got creamed.

I don't know if Speziale's staying in the race would have made a difference (doubt it).  But he sure had a big war chest that is supposed to be given to charity.


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We do not need a circular firing squad here! (0.00 / 0)
Hey, at least Tod stepped up! You've got to give him credit for doing that and you should be encouraging him to be involved and help invigorate the party infrastructure (and if necessary, wake some folks up).

He certainly, from what I've read, makes a good match for the district, where no uber liberal can win.

We need outsiders, new blood to come in and make the Democratic party stronger ... shake up in many cases the business as usual and myopia that seems to prevail in some quarters and counties.

I'll be honest, I really did not pay any attention to the race in the 5th, because I heard no buzz and was focused primarily in Central and South Jersey and some out of state races. With no NJDSC conference this year... that did not help new candidates achieve recognition and mix with Democratic leaders and activists.

Time for a wake-up call and change!


"Discrimination caused by ignorance and fear is a tax on human progress" - Barbra Casbar Siperstein


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I did give him credit for running (0.00 / 0)
it is right there in the post.  But this is about why the race was lost, and to pretend that the campaign had nothing in its control is to bury our collective heads in the sand.

Yes, no uber liberal could win this district.  But neither can a candidate who all but ignored Bergen County, fundraising, canvassing and phonebanking.

This is not about who the candidate should or should not be - I was clear that I think Tod had the profile of a better candidate than any BCDO insider; hands down and in many many ways.  But without any analysis of what went wrong, there is nothing to learn.

I did a similar analysis 2 years ago and will do another similar one in 2 years if Garrett wins again.

Since you admit that you paid no attention to the fifth, I understand the tone of your comment - and the fact that you heard no buzz is exactly the same complaint I had for months while trying to help the campaign generate the buzz.  

But for someone who probably has focused more time, energy and effort on the Congressional race over the last 4+ years than anyone else, I think I have solid ground for my observations.

And yes - it is a time for a wake up call and change.  All around.  


Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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what is the purpose of publishing these observations? (0.00 / 0)
It really doesn't matter if you are right or Tod is right.  NJ5 is one of far too many congressional districts in our country that are simply unwinnable.  Republicans like Garrett have them.  Democrats like Albio Sires have them.

As such, I do not have any idea what a public post mortem like this will do to improve anybody's chances to defeat Garrett in the future, if anything, it seems to me that it would deter future candidates from running or at the very least from working with you at the risk of being publicly torn to shreds by you only days after getting beaten badly by Garrett.  

The prospect of the latter is even worse than that of the former, because you clearly bring a tremendous amount of expertise to the table and it would be terrible if future candidates were discouraged from taking advantage of it, because they were afraid of what you might write about them if they do not do what you recommend.

To be honest, I think that both of your strategies are somewhat flawed, but their biggest flaw is that they are both based on the premise that any particular campaign strategy will enable someone to defeat Garrett in the 5th as it is currently constructed.

If you want to retire Garrett, you need to engage the redistricting process, identify who the members of the congressional redistricting commission are, and lobby them for a more competitive congressional district map that places either Bill Pascrell, Jr. or Steve Rothman in the same district as Garrett.

If you are successful at doing this, then it is very likely that the strategies that you describe above will put you or any candidate with whom you choose to work over the top.


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but if mistakes and lessons learned (0.00 / 0)
aren't understood, they will be doomed to repeat.

I have little interest in lobbying for redistricting.  I have more interest in lobbying locally for changes in the BCDO in terms of how to regain the trust of the electorate.  That includes something on pay to play, something on consolidation of services and certainly a lot on transparency - just to mention a few.

The thing about redistricting is that it is, to me, too removed and "inside baseball" where longtime Reps like Rothman and Pascrell have already decided (as the State electeds in their districts) what is going to go where and the redistricting plans have been all but done since it started looking like NJ would lose a seat.  And I just don't have the time to do that kind of lobbying work, given my job and other responsibilities - let alone other interests more locally....

We did the same analysis here 2 years ago on this race and on NJ-7, and my guess is there was more than one on Adler's race.

I don't agree that this district is unwinnable in its current layout.  I do think that it is a 2 cycle effort and up until now, there were too many issues that fed into the races, including candidate strategy, Garrett's relative unknowns for the first couple of cycles as people didn't realize he wasn't like Marge and the collapse of the BCDO.

While your point about "future candidates" is well taken, I most certainly did not rip Dennis to shreds after 2008 and didn't even rip Tod personally in this diary - but to ignore all that went on is not being honest either.

That being said, I do think that my experiences with prior candidates - Paul A., Dennis and Camille as well as people in the netroots in general and tangible work I have done will speak more than one post in one cycle after a race like this.

Lastly, thanks much for the good words on my "expertise" and talents.  I do appreciate it much.

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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What is wrong with "inside baseball"? (0.00 / 0)
What is reforming the BCDO if not "inside baseball"? Progressives have to learn that we cannot cede any part of the small-d democratic process to the large-D Democratic establishment based on where our interests lie, because we are going to find that any one area of the process that might pique our interest is undoubtably going to be impacted by several others.

I am not saying that you should do anything more that what you can, but I think that it is completely unrealistic to think that there are enough open minds in the 5th as it is currently drawn to beat Garrett regardless of what your strategy to reach them might be.

That said, even if your strategy was the right one, I still don't know why it was necessary to publicize your analysis, particularly the most critical aspects.  It seems to me that this would have been better suited to a private conversation with Tod or whomever the next person to run against Garrett might be.


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clearly (0.00 / 0)
we disagree on these items.  I have the ability to help with ideas more directly to reform the BCDO due to my contacts, etc.  I don't with redistricting and since that is a specific thing with a definitive date and moving parts that are impacted all around the state, that is a big difference from direction of a county committee that I am a part of.

As for your thoughts on this post, I'll point you to my comment above and agree to disagree with your view on whether or in what form it should have been posted.

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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I agree (0.00 / 0)
I strongly encourage you and other progressives in Bergen County to do everything that you can to reform the BCDO and make it as effective and progressive as possible.

But even if you are successful in reforming the BCDO in every way imaginable, what makes you think that this would make the 5th as it is currently constituted sufficiently competitive to have even a remote chance of defeating Garrett?

Let's imagine a best case scenario where the national mood is as pro-Democratic as it has ever been in our lifetimes (I will be 40 in January - I don't know if you are older or younger) and the BCDO is running is as effective and progressive as you can imagine that it can be.  What would you imagine that total turnout would be and what percentage of that turnout would vote Democratic?

What is a best case scenario for the Passaic County towns?  A 50/50 split?  If so, then according to your numbers above, your best case scenario in Sussex and Warren Counties is a deficit of 12,500 votes.  Can this deficit really be overcome in some of the wealthiest and most conservative parts of Bergen County?

I don't know where you live in Bergen County, but for your sake, I hope that redistricting places you in Steve Rothman's district for the next decade so that you can focus your efforts on reforming the BCDO as an end unto itself rather than as a means to an end, which in your case is defeating one of the far too many Congresspersons in our country whose gerrymandered district simply makes them unbeatable in a general election even in the most ideal political environment.

Agreeing to disagree about the costs/benefits of publicly criticizing the strategy employed by a particular candidate is one thing, but you never really answered my question about your purpose in airing these views publicly.  Your only response was:

But if mistakes and lessons learned aren't understood, they will be doomed to repeat.

I also agree with this sentiment wholeheartedly.  But who needs to understand mistakes and lessons learned at risk of being doomed to repeat them? Even if there is a Blue Jersey reader out here who is destined to be a future opponent of Scott Garrett, the understanding that they require will more likely be gained in a private conversation with you than in this public expose of the BCDO's and Thiese campaigns failings.

With all due respect, Adam, I think that you are just expressing your opinion for the sake of being heard since you were clearly not listened to by anybody at the BCDO or the Thiese campaign, which is unfortunate on both counts.  Both could clearly benefit from listening to what you have to say. That said, expressing oneself just for the sake of being heard might be good enough for someone like me who doesn't have much more to offer than his ideas and opinions.  You can be and do much better.


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2 things (0.00 / 0)
I'm 40 in December, so we are pretty close in age.

As for your last paragraph, that's completely not the case as I long stopped caring about what the Theise campaign or BCDO thought of my views.  Reforming the BCDO is going to be a years long thing - even in good circumstances.  Ditto for a winning strategy in the 5th, which probably includes finding a candidate strong enough to run twice because the strongest candidate won't win the first time around.

And while we clearly don't agree, your support and good words for me even while criticizing me is very appreciated.

Just thought you'd like to know that too.....

talk soon--

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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Not criticizing, Gramps! (4.00 / 1)
I am just trying to understand. At the core of my very lengthy comments are these two very simple questions.

How do you think that Garrett can be defeated, knowing the demographics of the district as I know that you do?

and

What do you think that your public criticism of Tod Thiese and his campaign will accomplish in either the long run or the short?

That said, I do agree with you about the importance of a candidate being willing to run against Garrett more than once. It was the reason that I believed that Anne Wolfe should have been allowed to run against him in 2006 and why I rooted for Camille Abate in both 2006 and 2008.

However, in none of these cases did I believe that Anne or Camille or Paul or Dennis or Tod had a chance to win.  The only thing that I hoped that they would accomplish is to narrow the margin of loss enough for the powers that be to decide that it was worth making Bill Pascrell, Jr.'s and/or Steve Rothman's districts somewhat more competitive so that a Democrat could have a fighting chance against Garrett.

Demographics aren't irrelevant, Adam.  Sadly, in a country like ours, it is the most important factor.  I wish that it wasn't, but it is.  Redistricting isn't the done deal that you think it is.  There are still a lot of moving parts and conflicting agendas.  I hope that you reconsider your position on this going forward, but if you don't, good luck going forward with whatever you do.

And a early Happy 40th Birthday to you.  Old men like us have to stick together.


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really? self congratulations (0.00 / 0)
to your own comment by yourself?

Amazingly, this is the first netroots "outreach" other than the Memorial Day diary I asked you to do and the comment to Connie Wagner's diary that I pointed you to.

I guess that isn't your fault either, right?

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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That was a campaign worker (0.00 / 0)
The above congratulatory comment came from a campaign worker who had access to my account.

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and the reason why there were exactly (0.00 / 0)
zero posts or interaction with Daily Kos or the Blue Jersey community over the entire campaign was?

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.

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Reflection (0.00 / 0)
Tod,
You promised structure for the campaign for months and failed to deliver.  You promised fundraising for the campaign and failed to deliver.  

You had a strategy focused on winning Warren and Sussex and bringing Bergen along on the coat tails of these efforts.  You ignored our strong protestations to such a strategy.

If you couldn't afford to leave work to commit to the race, then you had no business running.  Also, if you had put in a plan for raising money you could have hired paid staffers to lighten your load.

You told us you were upset with our not showing up for your campaign kickoff at your house in July.  However, you fail to realize that by that point many of us had been screaming for an organizational chart and a strategy since before the primary.  You asked us to come out to your house to show our commitment yet you gave us no reason to believe you were going to deliver.  Personally, I was not and am not willing to cede time from my family for a candidate unable to create an infrastructure, or unable to realize he needs to find someone who can.


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War Horse (0.00 / 0)
I appreciate you comments.  You always comported yourself with professionalism and honesty throughout the campaign.  
I used much of your research in the one and only debate I had with Garrett and it worked like a charm.  He was painted into corner after corner based on your factual data and interpretation.  Even one of Garrett's Tea Party supporters commented on my grasp of facts and Garrett's inabiity to repond.  That was because of your stellar work.  

Thank you for all your efforts on the campaign and best wishes going forward.


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My best wishes (0.00 / 0)
to you and your family, Tod.  Take care.

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Zero? (0.00 / 0)
I did post on BlueJersey for Memorial Day, so "zero" is incorrect.  I also posted on other many venues during the campaign.  Maybe not the ones you wanted, but  I did post frequently.  

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BlueJersey Radio (0.00 / 0)
I also went on BlueJersey Radio, which I genuinely enjoyed.

I want to extend my thanks to Jeff Gardner and Jason Springer for affording me this opportunity, and Adam for setting this up.


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um..... (0.00 / 0)
From my comment above:
Amazingly, this is the first netroots "outreach" other than the Memorial Day diary I asked you to do and the comment to Connie Wagner's diary that I pointed you to.

I outlined and provided a detailed netroots outreach strategy to you and to Cristobal more than once, including all but begging you to come to Netroots Nation, live chats on FireDogLake with Howie Klein for a HUGE netroots audience, live chats here and at Daily Kos, regular posts and Blue Jersey Radio - AFTER the primary, just to name a few.

And press releases.

Did I miss all of this?  "Post frequently"?  Where?  Not here.  Not at DKos.  Not at PolitickerNJ.  Not at any place that would have gotten you the Blue America endorsement that was there for the taking.  And not anywhere that would have gotten you press, netroots support or donations.  Good thing you blew off Netroots Nation to get all of that NJ Party support and money.

And that is just one aspect of the campaign.  Where did you take responsibility for any of the issues noted in the diary?  Where is there any accountability for the things that were entirely within the campaign's control?

Can you name one person in the "core group" or one idea that we brought up that was carried through on?  Just one?  

Paul and Dennis had little to no outreach or exposure in Warren and Sussex, yet they both outperformed you in both counties.  Did I miss something about there being a vibrant Democratic operation there or a full slate of solid candidates in these counties for any prior candidate?

You can point to whatever external forces you want, but all of them (if not specifically, then generally and historically) were there in prior races.

But I have yet to hear one thing - not while I (and others I still keep in regular touch with) was working with the campaign and not in this thread - that shows that you think anything within the campaign's control contributed to the results.


Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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Professional beats amateur (0.00 / 0)
In my time of either working with or studying or watching campaigns, I've generally noted that challengers tend to lose when they run an amateur campaign. No one gets to Congress by not knowing how to run a campaign. So when you have a professional going against an amateur, in pretty much any arena, the professional is going to win.

That doesn't mean bringing in "specialists" from Washington - local expertise is always superior than general expertise. Unfortunately, it still holds true that a prophet has no honor is his, or her, own house. So those of us who actually have some idea about running campaigns are often marginalized by a candidate who has "an idea" about how to win.  


Parting Thanks (0.00 / 0)
I want to thank all those in the progressive community who fought the good fight this year.  It was a tough time to embrace and promote the higher values of humanity in an increasingly Darwinian political climate.  

My X-mas wish this year is to be redistricted out of Scott Garrett's clutches.  If not, I will be here in Warren County to support whoever decides to step up and take on Garrett.  


My usual advice for the 5th... (0.00 / 0)
The next time you run across a moderate Republican who's thinking about switching parties and challenging Garrett, tell them this: Don't switch parties, and challenge Garrett. Unless the redistricting changes things drastically, this seat is staying "R", and I'd rather have a Roukema in there than a Garrett. Sure, it's a long shot, but so are all the other options.

you are far from the first (0.00 / 0)
to say that.  And something that "we" considered looking for over a year ago, actually.

Tough to find one though.....

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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Might be easier (0.00 / 0)
to find a conservative Dem who would switch.

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need to get voters to switch as well (0.00 / 0)
I absolutely agree that a conservative D or moderate R would have a better chance of defeating Scott Garrett in a low turnout primary election than a higher turnout general election.

However, this strategy needs to include an effort to get unaffiliateds and registered Ds to register as Republicans and vote in that primary election as regularly Republican primary voters might be batshit crazy and stupid when it comes to voting against their best economic interests, but they won't be fooled by a fake primary candidate.

That said, I believe that it is possible to import enough Us and Ds to have a chance of beating Garrett or any other Republican in a safe district.  The key is to have a very strong grassroots organizing effort.

Depending on when New Jersey's Presidential primary is held in 2012, this may or may not be a workable strategy.  If the Presidential primary is held on a different day than the regular June primary election day, turnout should be low enough in June for this to work.  However, if they are all held on the same day, turnout would most likely be too high for this to work.


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