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This Rail Tunnel Thing is a Big Deal

by: the_promised_land

Tue Sep 14, 2010 at 06:58:37 PM EDT



promoted by Rosi

A story is up on nj.com saying that Christie is claiming it was his decision to put a 30-day hold on construction of the ARC Tunnel, the new rail tunnel connecting NJ with New York, two days ago.

Up til now, it has been unclear what was going on with this hold. This story makes this a big deal for a few reasons:

(1) It would be a really stupid move to kill this tunnel because it is a great idea for New Jersey. The federal government has pledged $3 billion in support; the Port Authority another $3 billion. New Jersey has to put in $2.7 billion. In return, New Jersey gets $18 billion in increased home values, translating into $375 million in increased local property taxes collected every year. That may sound crazy, but it's happened before - as a result of the smaller Midtown Direct project in the 1990s, NJ became a much more desirable place to live for people who work in New York, and according to the Ledger we now have four times as many people who work in NYC living in NJ as we used to, and they bring back $50 billion a year in income to New Jersey. That creates jobs here and helps towns balance their budgets. Not to even mention that something like 70 towns now will have access on the train to New York much quicker, without transferring in Secaucus, or the potential environmental benefits.

So, in sum, this should be a no-brainer for anyone - we are using mainly other people's money to make our state a more attractive and wealthier place. And it's about time - wasn't Christie just complaining a couple of months ago about how little we get back from Washington?

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(2) It would be a colossally stupid political move on Christie's part to kill the tunnel - and tell us something more about his politics. I don't usually quote David Brooks columns because, well, David Brooks is infuriating. But it just so happens that his column today is spot on about what is at stake here. Brooks argues that Republicans nationally are caught up in an anti-government fanaticism that contrasts with conservative tradition and brought down the Gingrich Revolution not so long ago. He argues that there is some role for government to do a limited set of things that make the private sector work - infrastructure and the like. But there is such knee-jerk anti-government attitude that we risk damaging the economy.

It's hard to think of a more conservative role for government than providing basic infrastructure. And this is a real test of where Christie stands on whether there is any role for government or whether he is saying no to everything. For our sake as Democrats, I hope he says no to this because it will give a significant part of the business community
grave doubts about Christie and present an opening for the Democrats to distinguish themselves as a competent party that will build the economy. Then again, for our sake as a state, I hope Christie keeps it going, because we sure aren't going to get this done anytime soon otherwise.

(3)We still don't really know what's going on. There are strands reminiscent of the Race to the Top controversy - mixed messages (Christie doesn't comment for two days and then comes out in force, his NJ Transit director initially says this is one thing and then Christie says it is something else), the possibility of losing huge amounts of federal funding, etc. Seems like something strange may be afoot.

All that being said, for the sake of our state, I would welcome Christie being able to find real savings that don't doom the project and/or federal funding - not the kind of crazy go-all-the-way-back to the drawing board schemes being presented by the Sierra Club and others which ignore reality, but reasonable cost overruns, etc. And maybe that is all that is happening here. But it could be something bigger, and we should be watching. Really closely.

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Yes, great post (0.00 / 0)
Seconding the first comment.  Thanks much for laying this out so clearly and concisely.

What about the... (0.00 / 0)
Amtrak tunnels that will be built in a seperate location (because ARC didn't have enough forethought to connect them)

Won't they drive up property values by a similar amount?

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


Nope... (0.00 / 0)
Amtrak has four stations in NJ that already have service, which is a lot different from 70 towns getting new service. So more Amtrak service = not much economic impact.

As to potentially using the same tunnels, my understanding is that the Amtrak tunnels are at the earliest phase of the planning process - and it could take ten years to get to construction even starting, much as it has for this project which has been planned over ten years. Perhaps Amtrak should have had more forethought ten years ago. Or perhaps Amtrak could use the new tunnels for trains not continuing to Boston and fix the problem that way (not sure why this wouldn't work, actually). But to hold up an already funded project so that something that is just an inkling in someone's eye and could take another decade might happen doesn't make a lot of sense - it's making the perfect the enemy of the good. If Gov. Christie can sort some of this out in 30 days more power to him - but if he pushes this back 10 years, and loses the committed federal funding in the meantime, it's a self-inflicted wound on NJ's economy.


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Is the bottleneck... (0.00 / 0)
really the tunnels then? (forgive me, I'm a rail novice)

I was thinking with new tunnels come new lines/stations etc?

Not the case?

If I understand correctly then, the capacity of the tracks to NYC is fine, the limit is just the tunnels?


"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


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Good questions. (0.00 / 0)
I'm not a rail expert either, but here's what I do know.

Historically most NJ Transit lines did not go straight into NY, and instead stopped in Newark or Hoboken and then you had to transfer.

In the mid-1990s, NJ Transit opened Midtown Direct, which allowed the line that goes to Maplewood, Summit, etc. to go right into New York. This was a massive success - it had huge positive financial impacts on these communities and ridership soared.

Still, most of NJ Transit's stations, about 70, do not have a one-seat ride to New York. This is because of two things: first, the tracks don't connect up correctly (i.e. the track going into NYC through the existing tunnel does not directly connect to several of the lines).

Second, the tunnel under the Hudson is at total capacity. The rail lines once you get out of the tunnel into NJ, in contrast, are not at total capacity - in fact, on most of those lines that are not directly connected into NY, they are really far from capacity, because it's not so popular to have to switch trains to go into New York - it takes significantly more time and so is less attractive.

So the ARC tunnel would remove the one bottleneck in the system, connect the tracks up, and leverage the excess capacity that now exists on the lines that don't connect into NY. It will do what Midtown Direct did for a smaller number of stations for a much larger number of stations, and based on the evidence of Midtown Direct there would be a significant economic impact - that's where the numbers in my original post come from.


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to be more specific about that last line... (0.00 / 0)
The numbers actually don't come from me... they come from The Regional Plan Association which is a non-profit that works on planning issues throughout the NYC area and did a study on this.

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the tunnel was funded illegally (0.00 / 0)
Corzine knew we all knew it but he just wanted to put his union boys to work perhaps Christie just found out about the law .."No toll revenue derived from the New Jersey Turnpike or Garden State Parkway shall be used or available for any transportation project other than a highway project."

Since when has Christie (0.00 / 0)
been afraid to do something illegal?  If it suits his ideology (executive order limiting campaign contributions from unions) and ego he will do it.  If it does not suit his ideology, then f*#K it, he will do it his way (RTTT fiasco).

"Only a fool would follow a bully"

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