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Sorry, but a Recall is not Free Speech

by: Hopeful

Wed Mar 03, 2010 at 12:27:45 PM EST



The "Tea Party" seems be doing pretty poorly in court hearing on their recall:

"The state is trying to draw a bright-line rule completely excluding all possibilities," said Daniel Silberstein, a Clark attorney representing the recall committee. "We are not arguing today for Senator Menendez's recall. We are arguing simply for the right to express our dissatisfaction with Senator Menendez."...

While Silberstein argued the case was about allowing "core political speech" by way of New Jersey's secretary of state approving the recall notice, Menendez attorney Marc E. Elias of Washington, D.C., and state Deputy Attorney General Donna Kelly said the parts of a recall cannot be parsed and the whole effort is unconstitutional. They cited the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution, which says federal law trumps a conflicting state law.

This is ridiculous. Tea Partiers, like anyone, can go gather petitions in person -- or online -- all they like. Petition for Menendez to resign. Petition for him to vote against the budget. Petition for a recall. Petition for Exxon to spend $10 million attacking him. Whatever they like. Having a petition trigger a recall is what is at stake, and that is arguably unconstitutional. Besides the Idaho precedent we discussed before, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled term limits for Congress unconstitutional, and that is a very similar issue.

Hopeful :: Sorry, but a Recall is not Free Speech
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the contradictions are hysterical - wingers (and presumably teabaggers) are so "states rights" oriented in terms of the rhetoric and "Feds stay out" nonsense.

But then they cite the Constitution (which they clearly don't understand) to have Federal law TRUMP state laws that doesn't suit their narrow agenda.

that's pretty funny.

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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"everything can depend on what the meaning of is is."....

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First off I think the Tea Party's "reason" for recalling him are complete bullsh*t and purely political posturing.

That said, I think they have the right for the recall.  Our state constitution clearly states the people have the power to recall Federal elected officials.  Our Federal Constitution gives all rights not enumerated in the constitution to the states.  So the fact the Federal gov't does not have a provision for grass-roots recalls should not prevent it.  

The combination of the two constitutions, in my opinion, means anyone in New Jersey should be legally able to start a recall petition.

Now assuming the Tea Partiers win the constitutional debate, I think their recall petition should -- and will -- fail.  Complete horsesh*t and waste of time.  

But I have not read anything in the state and Federal constitution that says it is not legal (yes I did read both).


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