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I didn't realize that Wall Street was in NJ's 3rd Congressional District

by: Adam L

Tue Jan 12, 2010 at 10:19:18 AM EST



We have written more than a few posts on Rep. John Adler's siding against the public option and true health care reform (as opposed to health insurance reform).

We have repeatedly noted that, in positioning himself this way, Adler has not only alienated his base - the base that he shouldn't automatically rely on in 2010 - but also will NEVER get republican votes or avoid republican Party attacks.  In fact, he is still one of the targeted seats by the republican Party for 2010.

So now, we recently found out that Rep. Adler was one of a group of Democrats who met with Wall Street executives (including JP Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs) last fall - at the very time they were pushing to weaken legislation that would regulate the financial services industry:

In mid October, members of the New Democrat Coalition (NDC), a caucus of pro-business Democrats, traveled to New York City. According to an emailed itinerary for the trip drawn up by an event planner working for the group and obtained by TPMmuckraker, members met on October 12 with executives from Goldman, and the following day with execs from JP Morgan. Sandwiched between those events was a fundraiser for the New Dems, and a meeting with CEOs from Marsh and McLellan Companies, a consulting and insurance firm.

Based on the itinerary, the Goldman meeting was to be attended by Reps. Joe Crowley and Scott Murphy of New York, and Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona. The JP Morgan meeting was to be attended by Reps. Crowley, Murphy, Melissa Bean of Illinois, John Adler of New Jersey, and Jim Himes of Connecticut -- a former Goldman banker. Crowley serves as NDC's chair, and Bean as its vice chair.

Regulation of the financial services industry is pretty much accepted as necessary to help avoid the same abuses from prior deregulation and a repeat of the mess that was made over the past few years.  Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker and former International Monetary Fund economist Simon Johnson both agree that this is imperative.  Yet, Adler and other Democrats were more interested in strengthening their Wall Street ties, as evidenced by the itinerary here, which shows Adler as confirmed to meet with $5 billion TARP recipient JP Morgan Chase.

The big pushback was on the regulation of derivatives, which a quick google search will show was a big reason for the crisis, and what happened as a result of Adler (and his counterparts') efforts?

While the House Financial Services Committee was tweaking the reform bill proposed by the Obama Administration this summer, the New Democrats pushed back on key regulatory issues. One of the biggest: derivatives, the complex financial instruments that helped spark the global financial crisis. Most derivatives are traded in murky over-the-counter deals. The Obama administration wanted to push some of them onto regulated trading platforms. But that would have crimped one of Wall Street's most lucrative businesses: The top five U.S. commercial banks, including JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, and Bank of America, were on track through the second quarter to earn more than $35 billion in 2009 trading unregulated derivative contracts, according to a review of company filings with the Federal Reserve and people familiar with the banks' income sources. So JPMorgan, along with Goldman Sachs and Credit Suisse, lobbied McMahon, Bean, and other New Democrats to temper the proposed rules.

And look at who two of those companies are - JP Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs - the two that Adler and his "New Democratic Coalition" members met with.

Looks like Adler is "banking" on his actual constituency in his District not knowing or caring where his loyalties lie.

Adam L :: I didn't realize that Wall Street was in NJ's 3rd Congressional District
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Adler is history (3.00 / 1)
By abandoning his constituents in favor of corporate campaign donations he made a political miscalculation that will cost him his seat.
He should decline to run and avoid the embarrassment of a crushing defeat.
The only things you find in the middle of the road are yellow stripes and road pizza.
He could have been a contender, but instead he took a one way ticket to Palookaville.

Restore democracy and the Constitution for which it stands.

Adler is far superior to the alternative! (0.00 / 0)
Get real folks! Adler does great outreach and he knows the political realities of his conservative district and needs to survive. He is in favor of the public option, he is in favor of equality legislation and has stepped up in progressive legislation where his predecessor never tread... so please let's get real! He is in a tough district and he needs to have the strength and support to do the right thing in the long run.  

"Discrimination caused by ignorance and fear is a tax on human progress" - Barbra Casbar Siperstein

he is NOT in favor of the public option (0.00 / 0)
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He voted against the whole bill (0.00 / 0)
Who would have thought the Senate version would actually be worse?

"Discrimination caused by ignorance and fear is a tax on human progress" - Barbra Casbar Siperstein

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actually, anyone paying attention would have (4.00 / 1)
point is, he did not vote for a bill that contained a public option and was one of a relatively small number of Democrats to have done so.

To say he was in favor of it and then have him vote against the bill which had it is just not reflective of the facts.

I don't know anybody who thought the Senate bill, which we all knew was coming through Baucus' Finance Committee and not Dodd's committee, would be remotely close to having a public option.

That much, at least, was obvious from the beginning.

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


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Hey Lieberman was for the public option (0.00 / 0)
before he was against it!!

Ugh!!

"Discrimination caused by ignorance and fear is a tax on human progress" - Barbra Casbar Siperstein


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Lieberman isn't a real good (0.00 / 0)
person to compare Adler to if you are trying to defend Adler.

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.

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I don't think... (0.00 / 0)
...she was being serious.

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True, but... (0.00 / 0)
...it doesn't really matter.  John Adler never should have left the State Senate, where he was a progressive powerhouse, for the Congress, where he has become a conservative lightweight.

If Saxton was still in DC and Adler was still in Trenton, so many things that went down this past year could have been different.  Being more senior than Sweeney, Adler could have become the next Senate President and would have been someone who progressives could have gotten behind, unlike Sweeney, who is an embarrassment.

Who knows?  Maybe with Adler and Joe Roberts working as a team, they could have convinced George Norcross to push the levers at his disposal to get Madden, Redd, Sweeney, and Van Drew on board with marriage equality.

Five more votes might have made it a lot harder for Girgenti, Rice Sr., Sarlo, and Turner to vote the way that they did.  I think that at least two of those four would have voted Yes had Adler been in a position to deliver South Jersey for marriage equality, which would have been enough to win the vote.

Meanwhile, one less Democrat and one more Republican out of 435 would not have made a difference in the grand scheme of things, and after Adler loses in November, it is very likely that the Republican who beats him will be even worse than Saxton.

My only hope is that Adler realizes the error of his ways and redeems himself by becoming the leader of a progressive insurgency in South Jersey against the tyranny of Norcross/Sweeney and runs against James Beach in the 2011 Democratic primary for his old State Senate seat, assuming that wherever Beach is from is still in the same district as Cherry Hill.


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thanks for all your strong opinions everyone... (0.00 / 0)
...next time why don't ask someone who lives in the district for his/her opinion.

Until then i can only say -- gently as i know how -- that you should consider working your own side of the street.

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we're progressives, not prostitutes (4.00 / 1)
I say this, Jay, not to call you a prostitute per se, but because telling someone to work their own side of the street sounds like something a prostitute would tell another prostitute.

Others can disagree with me, but my feeling has always been that the entire state is everyone's side of the street.  It might work for the party bosses to carve up the state amongst themselves, although even they, especially George Norcross, try to extend their influence outside of their particular fiefdoms.

One of the things that I advocated for when the New Jersey for Dean campaign became New Jersey for Democracy, now DFA-NJ, was progressives being aware of what was going on throughout the state and helping each other fight the establishment wherever battles arose or needed to be fought.

In my opinion, this was true when Loretta Weinberg's political career was on the line in her battle with Joe Ferriero and it remains true with regards to South Jersey.  To be honest, Jay, I have refrained from directing any opinions or questions about John Adler and his first year as a Congressman towards you, because I did not want to be accused of calling you out for something that you were not personally responsible for.

But after your remark about the rest of us working our own side of the street, I think that the time has come to lay it all on the line with you and let the chips fall where they may.  It might be possible to only work our own side of the street, Jay, if your side of the street wasn't so corrupt, you weren't so silent about all of the corruption, and if the corruption on your side of the street didn't have such an impact on the state as a whole.

For some reason, Jay, you seem to ignore or be ignorant of the fact that there is a guy on your side of the street named George Norcross, who runs most, if not all, of the Democratic politics in South Jersey, and who in recent years has made efforts to make inroads into parts of Central and North Jersey as well.

It was one thing when his flunky, Joe Roberts, was running the State Assembly.  Roberts at the very least made a good faith effort to advance progressive policies as long as they didn't get in the way of the Norcross machine's efforts to accumulate power.  However, with the Senate Presidency in Steve Sweeney's hands, there is neither good faith nor a good heart in charge of the Democratic power structure in the state.

Through your work for Rob Andrews, when he tried to unseat Frank Lautenberg, and John Adler, you have chosen to be a part of that power structure rather than organize against it.  A fair argument could be made for working for Adler, who had been the most independent and progressive of all of the elected officials within the Norcross machine, but Andrews is another story altogether.

But I would like to think that between John Adler's healthcare reform vote and James Beach's abstention on the marriage equality bill, you could join the rest of us in being disappointed with the outcome of the chain of events that resulted when Adler moved from Trenton to DC and Beach took his place.  Yes, your Beach video was great, but it was hardly a warning shot across the Norcross machine's bow.

But even if not, I think that it is wrong for you to say, gently or otherwise, that anybody needs to check in with you before they express an opinion about a South Jersey politician, especially when you consider the fact that Adam is reporting on an issue of national rather than local or regional significance.

There is a saying that I believe is quite applicable here.  It is lead, follow, or get out of the way.  As I have said before, it appears very unlikely that Adler is going to win re-election in 2010 as it will be virtually impossible to repeat the turnout levels of 2008, especially with the lack of enthusisasm that his first term in Congress has engendered.

Taking that into consideration, it would be wonderful if Adler could redeem himself by challenging Beach in 2011 in an attempt to reclaim his old Senate seat and the honor with which his progressive performance in that office earned him.  Obviously, it would be to his benefit to have two State Assembly candidates as running mates.  I can't think of anyone better than you, Jay, to run for one of those seats, but it would require both you and Adler and whomever the two of you recruited to run with you to go against the Norcross machine.  I'd like to believe that you would be willing to do this, but only you can say for sure.


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rachael'sdad ... (0.00 / 0)
Why do you continue to pick fights with individuals on this blog? Either write a diary on one of the many subjects you feel competent to discuss, or start a blog of your own.

I really do think you could make all the same points and express dissatisfaction for how you see things go down in South Jersey without looking down your nose at another person who also blogs here. Can't you refrain from making this personal? I promise you, you would be ever so much more effective in writing.  

It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  


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I was responding to Jay's comment (0.00 / 0)
Either he is the only person here who can get away with telling others that they "should consider working your own side of the street" or I cannot get away with commenting on anything.

You tell me.  I guess that both could be true.

Assuming for a moment that you wanted to express your displeasure with Jay's comment?  What would you have said?


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? (4.00 / 1)
It seems to me Bertin was more cordial than Jay in that exchange.

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Thanks Dvd Avins (0.00 / 0)
It's nice to see that someone here is capable of being fair and making a judgment based on content rather than favoritism.

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while you're napping... (0.00 / 0)
...can the rest of us work your side of the street and express our opinion about South Jersey politics and politicians or do we need to wake you up and get your permission first?

Would you like me to get you a pillow and blanket and some milk and cookies, too?  It's no trouble at all.


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<Opens the popcorn> (4.00 / 1)
I like good debate -- keeps people honest.

And for the record I live right next to Adlers district but belong to the same Synogague as his family and spend a lot of time in "Adler country".  He definitly got in on Obamas coat-tails.  The question is whether is can stay.  I honestly don't know.  Most people have a short memory.

But one of the purposes of BJ, and all other political blog sites, is to foster the conversation even if it is unpleasant.  EVERYONE needs a little prod in the ass to keep them honest.  It is that dialogue that keeps me coming back here.


turnout is the real issue (0.00 / 0)
The massive dropoff from 2008 to 2009 is what killed Corzine, especially in Adler's district.  If the past can give us any insight into the future, turnout will be even less in 2010, which should end Adler's political career (unless he does what I write above).

Short memories aside, I don't foresee progressives being too enthusiastic about protecting Adler's seat, especially since whomever beats him will most likely serve only one term with NJ losing a Congressional seat prior to the 2012 elections.


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