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Rumors of its demise

by: Scott Weingart

Wed Dec 09, 2009 at 11:00:00 AM EST



If recent media reports are to be believed, the marriage equality bill is unlikely to receive the 21 votes it needs for passage in the Senate come Thursday.

Five Democrats are currently on record opposing the bill. Paul Sarlo and John Girgenti voted against the bill in committee, while Jeff Van Drew, Nick Sacco and Ron Rice have also recently announced that they will vote no. Media reports have several other Democrats as "undecided" or "decided but not telling."

If five Democrats vote no, then three Republican yes votes will be needed to pass the bill. Only one Republican, Bill Baroni, currently supports the marriage equality bill. Two potential supporters, Kip Bateman and Jen Beck, voted no in the Judiciary Committee, and another possible supporter, Diane Allen, is ill and reportedly will not make the vote. Sean Kean, while he voted no on civil unions, is apparently undecided. Tom Kean voted yes on civil unions but has stated his opposition to marriage equality in the past. Andrew Ciesla, who voted yes on civil unions and, in 1997, against banning "partial birth abortion," might be in play. The other ten Senate Republicans are longshots.

The situation may be bleak, but if we learn from the experiences of two states that have already passed marriage equality this year, we know that now is not the time to give up.

Scott Weingart :: Rumors of its demise
Democratic leaders in the Vermont Legislature introduced the marriage equality bill confident that they would secure record margins for passage. But after Republican Governor Jim Douglas declared that he would veto the bill, they knew they would need every last vote they could muster.

On Monday, April 6, the Governor vetoed S.115. The Senate, which had passed the bill 26-4, easily overrode the Govenor's veto by a vote of 23-5 the following day. Republican William Doyle, who had previously voted for the bill, voted against overriding his Governor's veto. The real challenge would come in the Vermont House of Representatives, where the bill initially passed 94-52. A clear two-thirds (100) of the 150 representatives would have to vote yes to successfully override the veto, so supporters appeared to be six votes down. They could make up half of that deficit with the votes of three members who missed the vote on final passage, but at least three opponents needed to switch their votes for the bill pass assuming none of the half-dozen pro-equality House Republicans followed Senator Doyle's lead.

Democrats thought they had found two of the three switchers they needed relatively quickly. Governor Douglas had annoyed Representatives Debbie Evans and Sonny Audette by announcing his veto plans before the legislature had a chane to act on the bill, and vowed to support override in the name of party unity. However, Audette had to stay home for health reasons, and was absent for the vote.

When time came to vote, the clerk began calling the names of the 150 Representatives, but only 18 votes were in any doubt. Early on, the vote looked to be going poorly. While three Republican yes votes held firm, only one (Evans) of the first ten Democratic opponents switched. The last three Republican supporters and two Democratic opponents would all have to vote yes, and one by one they did, until the future of marriage equality in Vermont rested on the decision of a gardener from St. Albans named Jeff Young. The freshman Democrat voted yes.

Thursday, April 23, 2009, might have been remembered as the day Marriage Equality died in the state of New Hampshire. That afternoon, the five-member New Hampshire Senate Judiciary Committee reported HB 436 as "inexpedient to legislate." While the committee's recommendation itself was not fatal—the Senate could choose to reject the recommendation when the bill came up for a vote the following week—the vote tally seemed to be. While two Democrats on the committee supported the bill, the third, Chairwoman Deborah Reynolds, sided with the Republicans in opposing HB 436. With no Republicans expected to support the bill, Democrats could afford to lose only one member of their 14-strong caucus, and it seemed as if they had already lost that one in Reynolds.

Less than a week before the vote, five Senators remained undecided, and all five would have to vote yes for the bill to pass. The undecided Senators included Senate President Sylvia Larsen, three Democratic women from politically marginal districts, and Lou D'Allesandro of Manchester, who advocated feared would oppose the bill on account of his Catholic faith. Three days before the vote, supporters were dealt another blow when Keivin Landrigan of the Nashua Telegraph reported that indicated that Democratic Senator Betsy DeVries also opposed the bill.

When the issue came up for a vote before the full Senate, DeVries and three other undecideds voted to reject the committee's recommendation and in favor of the bill, but Lou D'Alessandro joined all 10 Senate Republicans in voting no. In an astonishing switch, Senator Reynolds voted to reject her own recommendation and pass the bill. Nonetheless, it would take another month and several more votes before Governor Lynch finally signed marriage equality into law.

On Thursday, we can take another step toward joining Vermont and New Hampshire in granting true equality to same-sex couples. Call your senator and tell him or her to vote for S1967. If you've already done so, do it again, and tell your friends and family to do the same. Vermont and New Hampshire have made history in 2009. Now it's your turn, New Jersey.

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Inspiring post (4.00 / 4)
We'll learn tomorrow if New Jersey is graced with the same political courage.

fingers crossed! (0.00 / 0)
I can only hope our legislators don't let prejudice get in the way of doing what's right. You could tell from Bateman's speech on Monday that he supports equality in his head, but not in his heart. I hope that changes.

One thing that troubles me, though, is that I have yet to hear from GSE about what I can do to help, other than showing up on Thursday. Shouldn't we be making calls and sending letters?


Yes, keep doing that! (0.00 / 0)
And stop by your senator's offices in person, with hand-written letters to transmit to the staffers if (or more likely, when) the senator isn't available.

We have until around 5 p.m. when the offices close.  Calling, writing, and showing up is all that we can do at this point.  Then call again at night so their voicemails are full.


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who should I be targetting? (0.00 / 0)
Lesniak's my senator, so he doesn't need much convincing :)

I've been calling Bateman, Beck & Sean Kean's offices. Who else?


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We need these senators contacted (4.00 / 1)

Here is the contact info for potential (and former) fence-sitters:

  * Sen. Diane B. Allen, Republican
    11 West Broad St., Burlington, NJ 08016 (609) 239-2800

Ms. Allen is, literally, deathly ill. She is not expected to make it to Trenton tomorrow to vote. But miracles can happen ...

  * Sen. Christopher Bateman, Republican
    36 East Main St., Somerville, NJ 08876 (908) 526-3600

  * Sen. Jennifer Beck, Republican
    32 Monmouth St., 3rd Floor, Red Bank, NJ 07701 (732) 933-1591

  * Sen. John A. Girgenti, Democrat
    507 Lafayette Avenue, Hawthorne, NJ 07506 (973) 427-1229

  * Sen. Paul A. Sarlo, Democrat
    207 Hackensack St., 2nd Floor, Wood-Ridge, NJ 07075 (201) 804-8118

  * Sen. Jeff Van Drew, Democrat
    21 North Main St., Cape May Court House, NJ 08210 (609) 465-0700
    1124 North High St., Millville, NJ 08332 (856) 765-0891
    1028 East Landis Ave., Vineland, NJ 08360 (856) 696-7109
    Additional Phone, Somers Point, NJ (609) 926-3779

  * Sen. Jim Whelan, Democrat
    511 Tilton Rd., Northfield, NJ 08225 (609) 383-1388

Sen. Shirley Turner, Democrat
1440 Pennington Rd. Trenton, NJ 08618 (609) 530-3277

See http://channel-surfing.blogspo...  


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bateman's office must be getting inundated (0.00 / 0)
just called them again. First time it went right to voicemail. Second time a person answered, but I could hear phones ringing in the background, and the person that answered sounded really overwhelmed.

Beck & Kean's offices, however, were as pleasant as can be, and answered on the first ring. Gotta keep calling them!

I'm going to call Allen again (I hope she shows up. There would be nothing else so inspirational), and will try Whelan and Turner.


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It's most valuable (0.00 / 0)
when a legislator is contacted by his own constituents but it's still worth calling people who are on the fence.  Madden, Sweeney, and Beach could use some encouragement to show leadership and stick their neck out a little.  If one votes yes, you have to think that all three will vote yes.  And every Democrat who hasn't declared a position is worth calling.

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Wrong Side of History (4.00 / 5)

Opponents of this legislation should take a moment ... step back ... and rethink their position, because they are not only on the wrong side of this issue -- one day soon they will discover that they are also on the wrong side of history.  


Brilliant Exposition Scott!!! (0.00 / 0)
This can be won tomorrow!

What it will require is a few legislators actually voting their CONSCIENCES!!!  That's, admittedly, a rare phenomenon but it does occasionally happen.

The more people show up in Trenton tomorrow the more likely it is that some folks who are thinking of selling out to the dark side of their own ambitions and fears will choose to take the path of common human decency and of love for humanity over the path of fear and kowtowing to bigotry.

To take it to the extreme.....if a hundred thousand people show up tomorrow; the bill is passed.

Now, we know that that number is unlikely; but what if the real number it would take to shake/wake these people up is only, say, three thousand?    That's not impossible!

People are more likely to examine their own Consciences when there is lots of light and energy available.....let's provide that tomorrow in Trenton!!!

If anyone can carpool from Bergen/Hudson County tomorrow morning (please let me know asap ) at unboughtandunbossed@gmail.com  thanks.


As recently as two weeks ago (4.00 / 5)
This bill was declared dead.  All the news reports said it wasn't even going to get heard in any committee.  But through the amazing work of Blue Jersey, DFA and other progressive organizations including the thousands of volunteers at Garden State Equality, the progressive community rose like sisyphus.  The community got a vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee, just days after the New York marriage loss - yet another obstacle we climbed, and we won that vote.  The first time in state history that a legislative body approved marriage equality.  In politics, there is always a rabbit you can pull out of a hat.  So for you naysayers, well you silly wabbits, we're far from done.

Sisyphus and The Rising Phoenix...... (0.00 / 0)
Both of these myths come into play here.  In some sense they are, in this case, two sides of the same coin.....and the one may have been necessary for the fruition of the other!  

Steven is 100% right on, this cause has beaten great odds to get this far....and can be won tomorrow!!!



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When you call - Polite, firm, respectful (0.00 / 0)
Everybody reading this is experienced at contacting their legislators' office - or a targeted one, like Dennis' list. But in case you're asking friends, co-workers and family to call (and please do), please remind them of this:

- be polite.
- the staff is overwhelmed (which is good!), so be brief, make your points succinctly.
- keep your hand on the phone when you hang up, and call a friend right away, and give them that number, suggest what to say, and ask them to make that call and pass it on.  

It's not a particularly snappy signature, but here's what I think we need in the next NJ Democratic State Chair.  


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Turner is reportedly a no. (0.00 / 0)
TCNJ is going to her office at 4pm.  

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