Corzine mans up

Now it's time for you to woman up! (4.00 / 1)

Man Up is a sexist term, implying that being honest is a unique characteristic to men.

How ironic that in a post regarding poor phrasing on the weight issue you used poor phrasing on the gender issue!

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by: huntsu @ Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 14:46:51 PM UTC

I knew I'd get that. (0.00 / 0)

Et tu, huntsu?

I guess in my brand of feminism the words matter less than the actions do. But sorry if I offended you, girl woman fully-empowered personage.

By the way, I love this blog. ;-)


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by: Rosi Efthim @ Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 14:52:34 PM UTC

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Blue Jersey was there first (4.00 / 1)

It's a real shame that the campaign only realizes now the problem with that phrase.  If I remember, the ad was shown here on BJ and the question of the "weight" language raised several days before the ad was shown in TV markets.  I was surprised at the time that the campaign didn't immediately change its language considering the comments by pro-Corzine supporters.

 

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by: princetonblue @ Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 14:53:48 PM UTC

This is yawn, though. (0.00 / 0)

If the roles were reversed, the GOP would be making snarky comments about the blubbernatorial election.

Yes, people really shouldn't be made fun of for things that are out of their cotnrol.  But that is hardly the thrust of the Corzine campaign.

The GOP will grab at any little thing you know.

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by: Hoofin @ Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 16:34:29 PM UTC

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Wasn't just media (0.00 / 0)

It was volunteers, Corzine supporters, media, editorial writers, all kinds of people. It had a demoralizing effect. I agree with you that Corzine wasn't about this, which is why the campaign shouldn't have tried be so damned cute. A case of the staff/consultants not serving the candidate well.

If they wanted to make Christie's weight an issue - and I think that's entirely in bounds, they lost their opportunity to do so by blowing it all on that stupid ad with its slo-mo of a jiggling Christie. So, I'll let vmars -  who posted on the real risk of Christie's weight here on Blue Jersey - do that.  

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by: Rosi Efthim @ Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 17:00:54 PM UTC

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"A case of the staff/consultants not serving the candidate well. " (0.00 / 0)

I have to disagree with the highlighted sentence, Rosi.

Corzine said that because he had to. What else was he going to say? "Well, yeah, Wolf. That guy is HUGE."

Corzine and his ad makers knew what they were doing. It's an old model of campaign ads: stir up a small controversy to garner free attention, repetition, conversation, etc. Most campaigns don't get so lucky. And this was mildly controversial compared to what other campaigns have done to get free attention for an ad.

Fact is: nobody slipped this by Corzine. It served its purpose and now it's over. He had to say it was a poor choice of words because he had no other choice.

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by: JRB @ Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 17:30:01 PM UTC

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That's a jaundiced view. (0.00 / 0)

And it has merit. It was absolutely a calculated risk. I don't know if Corzine was in on that decision, or whether the engine that campaigns of this size are just moved the ad without his express consent.

I think you could look at the polls and conclude that the ad, with its deniable slur, contributed to Christie's slide. You could also look and conclude it was the mountain of other stuff voters have come to learn that turned it around, and that happened despite this.

But the reason Corzine "had to" say that is because it turned so many people off. We've talked to local Democratic activists so turned off not only by the ad but the "What? I didn't say that!" response by the campaign that they stopped volunteering.


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by: Rosi Efthim @ Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 17:39:56 PM UTC

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Rosi (0.00 / 0)

I agree with the idea that it's not good politics.   I've been fat in my iife and it's no pcnic, in a manner of speaking.

I just wonder about this thing where Democrats play by Marquis de Queensbury issues, where the GOP goes for the gut (whatever the size).

That Dagget escalator ride was no-holds-barred.   Dagget wanted to make the point that Christie was a fat-a** who couldn't even support his own weight standing still.   No one called Dagget on it within the Demos, even when they were poo-poo-ing the Corzine campaign.

I just wonder about these things.  

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by: Hoofin @ Wed Oct 28, 2009 at 15:24:59 PM UTC

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