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by: huntsu

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 06:25:13 PM EDT



Promoted by Jason Springer: I always love when huntsu stops by to give her take and as usual, she doesn't disappoint

For all of you who followed our work back when Blue Jersey was the lone voice talking about Chris Christie's misuse of his office, this one is for you.  For all of you who accused us of being on a partisan witch hunt, all I can say is ppppttttthhhhhhpppppptttttttttttt!

We already know Chris Christie used his prosecutorial powers to force corporations into paying his friends millions of dollars to watch over the business, thereby selling Get Out of Jail Cards to corrupt and criminal officers who got to keep their mansions unt deir yachts.

But now we find out that Chris Christie used those same powers and threats to get people fired who had committed no criminal offense or corrupt act.

Three years after being forced out of her high-profile post at the state's medical school under a cloud of scandal, Vivian Sanks King -- once the chief lawyer for the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey -- was quietly cleared by federal authorities.

In a rare letter last year from the office of then-U.S. Attorney Chris Christie, Sanks King was notified she "is not a 'target' or a 'subject'" of the criminal probes into wrongdoing at UMDNJ.

So Chris Christie himself says that -- in writing -- that Sanks King did nothing criminal or illegal.  And Christie's job at the time was to unearth criminal and illegal behavior and punish the crooks.  But King not being a crook didn't stop Christie from forcing her out of her job.

Christie forced Sanks King and three other officials out of their jobs at UMDNJ before he would enter into an agreement that would keep the university from being prosecuted in federal court.

Christie threatened UMDNJ official sthat he would not enter into a deferred prosecution deal with them unless they fired Sanks King, essentially giving them two choices:

  • Fire Sanks King, use millions of taxpayer dollars to pay Christie's long term supporters (and future supporters) to review their work, and protect their careers and reputations by staying out of court (and maybe jail) or
  • Keeps Sahks King, get indicted for their criminal acts, lose their livelihoods and reputations, and be ripped apart publicly by the US Attorney.

Needless to say, given that choice people who were engaged in corrupt or criminal acts are probably going to select the first option rather than the second.  Loyalty among thieves, and all that.

Christie's rationale for why it is acceptable for the US Attorney to force someone who committed no criminal or illegal act out of here job is that she was not good at it:

"When we entered UMDNJ in December of 2005, we found a publicly funded $1.6 billion-a-year institution which was violating multiple federal criminal and civil laws, had no legal compliance structure and had lost $400 million in taxpayer money due to fraud, waste & abuse," Christie said in a statement. "As general counsel, Ms. Sanks King was the corporate officer responsible for insuring that UMDNJ complied with the law."

Last I saw it was not a federal crime to be bad at your job.  In fact, under Christie's boss -- George Bush -- incompetence and failure on the job got you the Medal of Freedom.

Sanks King did nothing wrong to fall under the purview of the United States Attorney.  The Board of Directors should have fired her, maybe.  Or the CEO of UMDNJ.  But as US Attorney Chris Christie did not have the authority, the mandate or the power to have her fired.

But he wanted her fired.  So he used deferred prosecution agreements as a hammer to force her ouster though he had no right to do so because he was offended by her performance.  

Is that someone you want as Governor of New Jersey, a position that is as or more powerful than any public chief executive in the United State shy of the White House?

Not me.  Not me.


Update: And then there's this, which brings up two points:
"The publicly reported facts that our multi-year criminal and civil investigation uncovered clearly prove she failed in her job and failed the taxpayers of New Jersey who paid her salary," Christie's statement said. "Not being charged with a crime is hardly an exoneration of that performance or a justification for continued employment."

Chris Christie did not work for the taxpayers of New Jersey.  Her failure on their behalf had no bearing on his job as US Attorney, and no matter how aggrieved he may have been at this failure it was not his job to set it "right."  By forcing her out of her job admittedly for state issues he misused his power, which is as bad as anything Sanks King did wrong.

Secondly, as clammyc says below, Christie has repeatedly defended his brother Todd by noting he was not indicted for performing hundreds of illegal trades on Wall Street.  Christie can't use a lack of indictment as a shield for his brother and a baton against Sanks King.

Unless, of course, you play by the rules known as It's OK If You Are Chris Christie.

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IOKIYACC | 20 comments
compare to his brother... (4.00 / 3)
who ripped off millions from taxpayers through illegal trades (1,600 of them according to the SEC).

Then he too should have been fired (using Christie's own words), instead of making tens of millions from selling the company he helped build by duping taxpayers, then turning around and buying the US attorney job for brother Chris with hundreds of thousands in republican party donations,  before Chris gave millions in a no bid contract to the same US Attorney who didn't prosecute his brother?

How is that any different here from the so-called "defense" that Christie uses about his brother?

Scott Garrett - on the wrong side of, well, everything.


offended by her performance. (4.00 / 1)
offended by his performance.  

Chris Christie is offensive, Chris Christie does things I find offensive, behaves in ways I find offensive.

So does Chris Christie get indicted before or after Jon Corzine eviscerates Chris Christie on election day.
Grumble
Grip
Groan
Grimace.

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You are so reaching with this... (0.00 / 0)
Obviously, are you vigorously against the Obama administration forcing out the heads of the auto makers for incompetence, right?

He did the RIGHT thing, she does not have to be a criminal to be incompetent. He had the means to reform the medical school and it's better for it.



"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


You Just Don't Get It.... (0.00 / 0)
Christie is no reformer.

He's just another competing criminal who legally used the legal system to legally enhance the fortunes of his own people.

Christie is as ethically challenged as anyone he put away.

If Christie had aggressively used the RICO statutes to go after ALL of the intertwined nexi of corruption in New Jersey he would have busted and convicted TGHOUSANDS of public officials and "business" people.

Hell, if Christie really WAS the reformer he pretends to be, I would be voting for him despite his party affiliation just to get the state cleaned up!

Christie is part of the problem.  if he was truly an honest reformer he would have wither raised hell or have been fired by Bush...nether happened.

I only hope Corzine has the balls to kick some ass.   Being "nice" could cost him his job and move New Jersey from the frying pan intyo the fire.

Christie is a hardass bully boy and needs to be confronted directly in no uncertain terms.


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So removing this attorney... (0.00 / 0)
benefitted him how exactly?!?!? What's the motive?

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai

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That's how you know Christie is corrupt (4.00 / 1)
That question is exactly why you should see an ethical lapse in Christie.  A USA's job, his/her "motives," are defined by federal statute.  

His job as USA began and ended at the statute book.  Any other motive was illegitimate, unethical ... and his letter stated there was no federal statute violation.


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Don't Let Facts Get In The Way (0.00 / 0)
Obama INVESTED federal dollars so that the people owned a huge portion of the auto manufacturers.  It was entirely within the scope of his duties to demand their resignation, since he represents their largest owner.

Christie had no portfolio to demand the resignation or firing of someone who had committed no federal offense.  

His ONLY job as a federal prosecutor was to enforce federal laws.  By his own admission Sanks King had not violated any federal laws.  Therefore he had no authority to demand her ouster.


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What facts have I missed... (0.00 / 0)
The auto companies had about as much choice as UMDNJ did...

Just as I think Obama was well within his bounds to demand new leadership at the automakers so can Christie demand new legal counsel at UMDNJ.

If you want to argue that Christie did something wrong then demonstate that Sanks King was competent. Demonstrate Christie has some motive other than betterment of the school.

As I mentioned to Nick, there can't be a crime without motive. Where is the motive here? If if was her job to see the university operated within the law, she has failed miserably, while that may not be criminal, it is certainly grounds for her removal.

And he certainly does has portfolio to demand the resignation of someone who enables criminal activity, knowingly or not.



"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


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no crime without motive? (0.00 / 0)
Manslaughter is a crime without motive.  There are plenty of others.

But even so, the motive is the exercise of power.

The thing that keeps government from being dictatorship is that authority is proscribed and prescribed.  By Christie's own admission King's only issue was incompetence as it related to NJ STATE OBLIGATIONS.  Christie's only portfolio had to do with FEDERAL OBLIGATIONS.

He had no right to intervene in a purely state issue when there was no federal crime.  It's that simple.  


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So your premise is... (0.00 / 0)
He removed this person because of a power trip?

If he was that meglomaniacal, wouldn't been a bigger exercise of power to prosecute the school out of existence? Removing EVERYONE from their jobs?

I think the two are mutally exlcusive, if you really want to weild your power as US Attorney, wouldn't you prosecute these businesses into oblivion?

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


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It doesn't matter why ... (0.00 / 0)
You're creating a red herring for us to go down.  The fact that he used his power in a way that is not within his portfolio is the point.

He could have done it because he didn't like her shirt, because he just wanted to get a scalp to prove his power, because someone had to pay, or whatever.  Maybe he is just like Tom Friedman and wanted someone to SUCK ... ON ... THIS.

But the fact is he forced used the power to put people in jail to get someone who committed no criminal act fired.  The why is unimportant.


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Again... (0.00 / 0)
there are plenty of people who were forced out of postions regardless of criminal culpability.
I would argue it goes to business practices. I think everyone would agree these DPA's result in changed business practices. In my view, removal of the attorney here should be viewed as a change in business practices for the better.

A much better critique of this sitution is njvoices. Thurman has an excellent point, (a more valid one, in my opinion)

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


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And again ... (3.00 / 2)
You throw up a red herring, then knock down a straw man.

Sure, lots of people lose their jobs due to incompetence.  But the US Attorney is not the one who gets them fired by threatening to put their bosses on public trial under the threat of jail time.

Yes, DPAs result in changed business practices.  However, she did not get fired AFTER the DPA was entered into.  Christie refused to enter into a DPA as long as she was employed there.

I wouldn't have a problem if it was under the DPA after the "independent" auditor was hired.  But this was the US Attorney saying to the officers of the business, "Fire her or I will take you to court, ruin your reputations and put you in jail."

That's a very different set of facts than the ones you present.


[ Parent ]
Aren't changed business practices... (4.00 / 1)
the basis for avoiding prosecution?

Isn't that what we have here?

What you seem to be saying is that you would be OK if Christie's monitor determined that she was incompetent, but not Christie himself? What's the difference, there's nothing 'independent' about the auditor, they are all working in the US Attorney's interest. Independence is not a prerequisite, they are supposed to hold the government's interest paramount.

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


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FYI (0.00 / 0)
Manslaughter is not a crime without negligence.

http://www.answers.com/topic/m...

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


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I'll give you one thing (4.00 / 1)
You may be asking the right question, but for the opposite purpose that you think.

Indeed, what was his motive?  It wasn't his job under statute and job description.  Taxpayers didn't own major stock in UMDMJ like we do auto.

So, what was his motive?  Maybe if corporate media hadn't destroyed journalism, we'd have reporters in the marketplace who would be asking just that:  What surreptitious motives DID Christie have for going outside the scope of his job to ruin the career of one fellow lawyer?  What personal history is there?

If there were such a reporter who might investigate, maybe he/she also would want to look at the government emails (and nongovernment if possible) between CC and Michelle Brown.


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Exactly... (0.00 / 0)
if you can demonstrate that this lawyer turned him down for date... or that his buddy ended up with the postion... I'd be right with you...

But to me... having a prosecutor insist the position, whose responsibilty is to make sure no crimes are committed, is done properly, sounds within the scope of what a US attorney should care about.

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


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Think about that (4.00 / 1)
"He had the means ..."

He created the "means" to do it.  But no one gave him those means.  He took the rare DPA option off the rails to create his own "means."  It was Mafia-esque, not the rule of law.

I'm glad Pascrell and Pallone are pushing this issue on the national level.  God help America if all 50 states start doing what Alabama and NJ USAs did.  And I say that no matter what party is in power.


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Speaking of which ... (4.00 / 1)
Can anyone point me to reporting by someone who has actually looked at the civil case David Kelley supposedly brought against Todd Chrisite and also looked at the transcripts that show the disposition of it?

Bark, bark, bark (0.00 / 0)
Sealed. I'll bet.

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