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Updated: Could breaking ground on the Nation's Largest Transit Project end up breaking the bank?

by: Jason Springer

Wed Jun 17, 2009 at 03:15:00 PM EDT



Updated by Jason: Unless things changed in the last week, the Star Ledger Article is off base and the project is funded.  From a separate article in the Asbury Park Press following the press conference announcing:
The director of the Federal Transit Administration said the federal government will fully fund the remaining $3 billion of the new Hudson River rail tunnel.

Peter Rogoff, director of the FTA, made the announcement at the ceremonial groundbreaking here for the $8.7 billion tunnel today. He said it is the largest federal transportation funding commitment in history.

And then in the Hudson Reporter:
The announcement of more federal funding last week now means that the project is currently fully funded.

"I've been familiar with this project and worked on it years ago when Frank Lautenberg was my sub-committee chairman, but back then we never really felt that we would get here because we never really thought that the states and localities would be able to put up a sizable enough match to make a project like this a reality," said Rogoff.

Rogoff continued, "Governor Corzine has proved us wrong, and we couldn't be more thrilled that he did. When you've got a tunnel that's already at capacity and transit ridership alone expected to grow perhaps double in the next 20 years, we don't have the choice in not doing this project. So that fact that the leadership came together and that the money came together to make it a reality is a thrill for me, especially on the 10th day of the job."

So I'm not sure what the Star Ledger article author is talking about, because that would be a drastic change in the span of a week.

On June 8th the Governor, along with state and federal officials, broke ground on a new Mass Transit Tunnel under the Hudson River. From the Governor's weekly statehouse email:

Currently, 10 NJ Transit rail lines use one tunnel to enter Manhattan. The groundbreaking ceremony in North Bergen kicks off the construction of a second way in and out of New York City. Once completed, the new tunnel will double commuter rail capacity on New Jersey Transit from 23 trains to 48 during peak rush hours, increase the number of direct rail lines into New York City from North Jersey and create 44,000 permanent jobs as a result of increased economic mobility in the region.

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"It will create thousands of jobs for hardworking families across the region, promote better mobility and provide enormous environmental benefits,'' said the Governor, after handing the shovel he used to break ground to one of the tunnel construction workers standing nearby.

The project has long been championed by the Governor and Senators Frank Lautenberg and Robert Menendez. Financed with funds from the New Jersey Turnpike Authority, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and federal stimulus dollars made available under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act signed by President Barack Obama, the $8.7 billion project is expected to be finished in 2017.

It all sounds great so far. But follow me below the fold to see video of what went right from the groundbreaking, a story of what went wrong and how this project could put us on the hook for a large bill.
Jason Springer :: Updated: Could breaking ground on the Nation's Largest Transit Project end up breaking the bank?
Here is a video of the groundbreaking with comments about the project:

Unfortunately, not everyone was on message for the groundbreaking and Vice President Biden made his own headlines the day after. His office said he misunderstood the question and the shame of that gaffe is that he's probably one of the largest backers of mass transit having taken the train to DC for decades as a Senator from Delaware.

If only Joe Biden's misunderstanding was the worst problem facing this project. We could be in for a much more costly problem:

Funding for New Jersey's second commuter rail tunnel to Manhattan may be $3 billion short of its price tag, which could leave the state few options -- such as higher tolls and taxes -- if the federal government fails to provide that money.

A weak economy could force congressional leaders to delay or reduce federal funding for a project that has received commitments from the state, New Jersey Turnpike and Port Authority that total $5.75 billion.

That would leave us on the hook for a good deal of funding to complete the project. Senator Lautenberg is hopeful, but not very reassuring:
Sen. Frank R. Lautenberg (D-N.J.) said persuading federal officials to provide billions of dollars toward the tunnel could be challenging, noting Congress is still "digging itself out of a hole" because of large budget deficits.

But he expects the federal government to eventually provide $3 billion for the tunnel, saying increasing capacity will help the entire transportation corridor between New York and Washington, D.C..

"These are national needs -- these are not local," Lautenberg said.

Let's hope they see the national need that Senator Lautenberg does, otherwise this could become a statewide problem. The first thing that will have to happen for the project to get it's money is for the transportation funding to be renewed. The deadline for that is September 30.
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this whole story seems bogus (0.00 / 0)
Some idiot in Congress said all federal projects will lose money?  Oh please, not in a million years.  

Frank LoBiondo Record and Jon Runyan Watch

What's Going On here??? (0.00 / 0)
Why have a groundbreaking ceremony if the funding for the project isn't secure???

If, as Lautenberg clearly states,

"...persuading federal officials to provide billions of dollars toward the tunnel could be challenging, noting Congress is still "digging itself out of a hole" because of large budget deficits."

It makes for a great picture in an election year, and I do believe that this could serve to cut the vehicular traffic into NYC, reduce pollution etc but why proceed if the funding isn't secured?

Frankly, it sounds like this is being driven by contractors who want to make a killing and pols who want a great picture to run on.

Further, this thing needs to be costed out in a way that is 100% on the public record and open to public scrutiny....and the contracts need to be written in such a way that we do NOT wind up with another "Big Dig" on our hands.  http://www.complianceweek.com/...

The actual plans, costs materials, time tables, contracts, bidders etc etc etc should ALL be transparently on the web at every stage of the process and opened up to scrutiny.  This is taxpayer money and it should never be spent in the dark.  (We also need lots investigative citizen-journalists with the appropriate expertise and resources to scrutinize the data, but that's a separate challenge, eh.)

As much as NJ needs new infrastructure, we also need to be maintaining what we have already built.   And as much as we need economic stimulus/jobs we also need to keep a tight leash on the competitive bidding process and the way these contracts are doled out.

NO ONE should ever get a contract because they have "paid to play".  How screwed up is that?   If the very process of getting the contracts is CORRUPT does anyone think that every single aspect that follows won't be even more corrupt?  From using cheaper materials to no show jobs for cronies to cost over runs to environmental abuses to...you name it!  

The cost of legalized corruption in New Jersey is unsustainable....and it infects BOTH parties.

There is no good reason why this thing can't be properly funded from the get go and that all the planning and pricing can't be realistically locked in stone  BEFORE we start building it.  

Obviously, every contingency can't be totally anticipated....but the kinds of runaway cost over runs that happened in Boston didin't HAVE to happen.   It's not a problem of competence; but one of (imho) the cumulative corrosive effects of greed and corruption.   There is no effing limit to how much people will try to steal if they think they can get away with it....and no matter how rich the thieves get; they always want more and more and more, that is the nature of greed.

Who always gets screwed in the end?   The ordinary working person who makes their living by actually being productive.   The folks who play with paper and pay the legalized bribes and never get their hands dirty end up owning the world and the actual workers and taxpayers get the shaft...it's an old story and we don't have to keep on repeating it.


What is going on (4.00 / 1)
Nick, the reason it was started without funding is a) they fully expect the funding to come through (I have no personal idea how realistic that is or isn't), and b) every month or quarter of year they wait to start is another month or quarter or year later it finishes.

Assuming they're right about (a) (and, again I have no personal knowledge), then it makes a lot of sense not to wait. In fact, you can say that by starting, it puts pressure on the Feds to pony up.

Do you have any specific complaints about the bidding process with this project, or are you just railing against it in general? So far there have been articles about the govt putting out request for bids, evaluating bids, and awarding bids. Its not like this is being done in a no-bid secretive way. Have you looked into it and found important missing details? What details are they? Have you requested those details and been denied?


Guesswork And "Spec" Isn't Good Enough (0.00 / 0)
(Quotes are fredct's remarks followed by my responses)

Nick, the reason it was started without funding is a) they fully expect the funding to come through (I have no personal idea how realistic that is or isn't), and b) every month or quarter of year they wait to start is another month or quarter or year later it finishes.

I gathered as much.  What they're trying to to is obvious, I believe you're own (admitted) surmise about the "strategy" involved here is likely correct.

Assuming they're right about (a) (and, again I have no personal knowledge), then it makes a lot of sense not to wait.

Yes, you are obviously correct....IF you start out by assuming that their strategy is 100% "right"; then the outcome will, almost certainly, be that the project lurches on to the next funding installment.

In fact, you can say that by starting, it puts pressure on the Feds to pony up.

This sounds like the same kinds of tactics that defense contractors have routinely used to suck the taxpayers in to paying for bloated systems with massive cost over runs.   It can be described as a kind of "bait and switch" and an appeal to the fallacy of sunk costs.   If you're a gambler it's called throwing good money after bad.  Why do we perennially fall for this tactic?  Because no one likes to admit that we made a mistake....and the more one "invests" in the error the more difficult it becomes to admit to it.....also, in the case of these giant contracts, there are those who profit enormously and have the money to spend of public relations firms, lobbyists and campaign contributions.    There is likely and army of hundreds of extremely well paid brilliant people behind the scenes that is doing all it can to keep this multi-billion project "on track".  ("Track" here meaning a greased path to maximized "profitability".)

Do you have any specific complaints about the bidding process with this project, or are you just railing against it in general?

Did you read the article that was linked?   It deals with compliance issues around Boston's "Big Dig" boondoggle that would be analogous to this kind of tunnel project.  (I just tried to get to some quotes from the article and was blocked by their website and asked to subscribe......maybe they put in a cookie that doesn't allow a second unpaid access?)   .......aha!   This is a link from Google to the article that they'll let you use http://www.complianceweek.com/...

Here's an extended quote.....


  1. The starting point for creating an effective 'tone at the top' resides with the character of senior corporate managers themselves. Everything cascades down. The Big Dig's contractors-from Bechtel to Modern Continental to others-were able to rip off taxpayers and produce shoddy work and materials because the state's managers were conspiring with them. As Pitt writes, "A company must have the right people in leadership positions, leaders who are truthful, transparent, and fair, just as they expect their companies and employees to be."

  2. Employees must be empowered. As Pitt has written in the past, employees must feel they are part of a team that values them and encourages them to be ethical. Is it possible that no one at the Big Dig knew there were problems with the bolts and epoxy used to secure the concrete that killed Mrs. Del Valle? According to The Boston Globe, in 1998 the state inspector general reported that there were indeed problems. Did no one speak out? According to Pitt, company leaders must demonstrate just how important it is for employees to "buy in" to the culture of compliance and ethics. That means raising red flags at all available opportunities.

  3. Believe that others can, and will, sniff out your problems. The Massachusetts Transportation Authority has consistently assumed the same thing that most public companies assume: Our problems are our problems. That's never the case. Your problems impact your stakeholders, and they'll find out about them sooner or later.

  4. There is no such thing as de minimis ethical or compliance breaches. All breaches of standards need to be taken seriously. Too often, accusations of problems and whistleblower complaints at the Massachusetts Transportation Authority were ignored. "The surest way to impair the 'tone at the top' is to ignore misconduct," says Pitt.

  5. Disclose, disclose, disclose. Meaningful potential events need to be communicated to all relevant stakeholders, and they need to be communicated honestly and early. Failure to do so jeopardizes the credibility of management. After the death of Milena Del Valle, for example, Turnpike Chairman Amorello stated repeatedly that his tunnels were safe, safe, safe. But 24 hours later his team was removing the remaining concrete sections that caused the tragedy, demonstrating a lack of confidence in the structural integrity of the tunnel and others like it. Within two days a complete inspection of the entire Big Dig-including the newly submerged expressway, all bridges, and the highly trafficked Sumner, Callahan, and Ted Williams tunnels-was underway by federal safety officials. Not exactly a vote of confidence in the safety of the infrastructure.

  6. A friend in need is often very lonely. Don't wait for problems to become public before discussing with the appropriate parties. Or, as Pitt puts it, "Waiting to interface with regulators until you really need them is a sure-fire prescription for disaster."

  7. Beware of the "unk-unks." As Pitt wrote in a Nov. 29, 2005, column, these are "unknown-unknowns"-those things that can't be predicted, but for which preparation is still required. Amorello and his team clearly never prepared for a crisis of the magnitude they are now facing. Writes Pitt: "Companies that regularly engage in off-site assessments of potential crisis fodder can avoid or minimize a potential disaster before it occurs."

  8. Ensure timely and appropriate follow-through. Sometimes problems that escape an organization's attention can be rationalized by becoming lost in the commitment to improving shareholder value. But once a problem or potential problem is perceived, "there's absolutely no rationalization for not dealing with it," Pitt says. And if you've identified it but not dealt with it, regulators and stakeholders will be merciless if the anticipated problem actually comes to pass. Sound about right, Chairman Amorello?

Back to fredct....

So far there have been articles about the govt putting out request for bids, evaluating bids, and awarding bids. Its not like this is being done in a no-bid secretive way. Have you looked into it and found important missing details? What details are they? Have you requested those details and been denied?

Is there a single website re the project in which all of these bids are totally spelled out?  And in which all of the responses to the bids are also spelled out and exposed to real time public scrutiny?

I suggest that it might be a great project for some number of college courses/classes/students across the nation to choose projects like this to study and to scrutinize.   Or better yet, that the feds fund some kind of investigative journalism that has as its job to scrutinize these kinds of contracts for illicit and/or unethical actions.   Another idea would be to offer financial incentives (rewards) for anyone who can spot a scam of any kind in the making...with the rewards slanted toward preventing the illicit/unethical action.

Obviously, if the project is needed...and we can get it built on time and on budget and no one is ripped off; then that is what we're after.   But if you take a look at how things are done in NJ and elsewhere, that scenario is rare.

Enter "big dig" and "scam" into google.   See what comes up.   Thousands of hits.   This is a similarly sized project in NEW JERSEY!  If you really don't think that it could become a honey pot that will attract thousands of corrupt actors who will have all manner of self serving perverse incentives to drag it out for as long as possible and to have it cost as much as possible; then you don't know much about how things get "done" in New Jersey.

In closing, I'm NOT against the project.  I DO believe it's a good idea in principle.  What I do NOT want to see is this project becoming another  multi-billion dollar boondoggle.   Especially if there is any chance that the people of New jersey would be left holding the bag.

Surely we can find more legitimate ways to stimulate our states economy that to grasp at this project with the idea in mind that "who cares if its corrupt....we need the jobs and it'll be the US taxpayers that'll get screwed anyway (i.e. the feds are paying so who cares).

Finally, can anyone think of a private sector project of this size that could ever get built on pure spec?  Wouldn't the financing have to be fully arranged before any ground is broken?   Why should it be different for a government funded project?   There should be some way to cost it out so that we can know that, say over a period of 40 years, that this will pay for itself and actually be profitable)  and yes.....that would have to include monetizing a FULL spectrum of benefits not just dollar "profits".

Meanwhile, I realize that it's not likely that anyone is going to take anything I say here very seriously........but when/if this does become a boondoggle and the shit hits the fan....maybe some of you will recall that you read this and maybe you'll be inspired to become a reformer.

Hope springs eternal.   ;-)



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PS List Of "Approved" Contractors (0.00 / 0)
This has a date on it of 6.10.09  and is on the www.arctunnel.com site

The following contractors have been pre-qualified to proceed to Phase II of the
procurement process for the Final Design and Construction of Manhattan Tunnels 08-
111X
1. Barnard of New Jersey and Judlau Contracting Inc., Joint Venture
Contact Information: Ben Cambell
Barnard Judlau Joint Venture
PO Box 99
Bozeman, MT 59771
Phone (406) 586-1995
Fax (406) 586-3530
Ben.campbell@barnard-inc.com
2. Shea/Schiavone/Skanska, Joint Venture
Contact Information: Dennis Poulton
J.F. Shea Construction, Inc.
667 Brea Canyon Road, Suite 30
Walnut, CA 91788
Phone (909) 594-0988
Fax (909) 869-0827
dennis.poulton@jfshea.com
3. ARC Constructors - a Joint Venture of S.A. Healy Company and CCA
Civil/Halmar International LLC
Contact Information: Chris Larsen
Halmar International LLC
1 Blue Hill Plaza, Post Office Box 1564
Pearl River, New York 10965
Phone 845-735-3511
Fax (845) 735-3388
clarsen@halmarinternational.com

I would hope that they also put up a list of all the contractors who put up bids and that they would share why and how they whittled it down to these three.  

Further, I would invite everyone to do some serious scrutiny into these three "finalists" to see if any of them have any connections to New Jersey politicians and/or power brokers.  If the answer is yes; then they should be suspect on a prima facie level.

Not that "foreign" contractors wouldn't also be capable of padding, and cost over runs etc etc etc etc .....WHOEVER gets this contract needs to be kept under a fiduciary microscope and EVERY penny they spend needs to be scrutinized and accounted for.......and the contracts need to be written so that if they fail to deliver they are put out of business and precluded fro ANY profit or personal income from the job.    These people should NOT be allowed to make ANY money if they fail to deliver!!!  And any monies they may take for themselves should become forfeit under criminal penaltiy if they fail to deliver what they contracted for.

Obviously there are legitimate fluctuations in the costs of materials/labor etc that can't always be forseen; my concern is that there will be perverse incentives to screw up in ways that drag out the job and inflate profits....and that cheaper methods/materials will be used to inflate profits.   These contractors need to understand that screwing the taxpayers can put them in JAIL!!!

Finally, why are we already in a "groundbreaking" stage when the contractors and the plans haven't even been determined.   Also is there a time period for the public and interested good government groups with access to independent expertise to weigh in?     It feels like the taxpayers are, once again, being given the bums rush here.

Yes, we have economic problems, but they shouldn't be an excuse to stampede us into signing off on this kind of multi-year multi-billion dollar project!!!

There MUST be some kind of independent oversight form experts who are NOT beholden to the people who will profit politically and financially form these projects.    Without that kind of independent unbiased expert oversight we (the people who pay the taxes) will ALWAYS get screwed in the end.


[ Parent ]
Turnabout is fair play. (0.00 / 0)
After so many years of getting the least return on our tax dollars from Washington, paying through the nose so that Alaska could have a bridge to nowhere, I don't think it's unreasonable to feel a certain entitlement to the federal funding for this project...especially since it would also be a boon to all of the states up and down the Northeast Corridor.

I think Jeff Tittle... (0.00 / 0)
had a legitimate concern about this (if it's true). Is it true that this new tunnel will ONLY serve the Bergen line? It's posted above that currently, 10 lines use the existing tunnels at 23 trains at peak times. It's also posted that capacity doubles to 46 trains will completion of the new tunnel. But that's not accurate, unless the Bergen line has 23 trains at peak hours. Is the Bergen line the busiest line? Is that why this was done? Otherwise, there's a whole lot more infrastructure work to be done to get the other lines access to the new tunnel. That was Jeff's main complaint, he seemed to imply the project wasn't fully thought through and we jumped the gun to get the stimulus money. (he also complained that the end station in NY wasn't very logical also)

Anyone know if it will service the all the existing lines?

"Where ever you go, there you are." - Buckaroo Bonzai


http://www.arctunnel.com/ (3.00 / 1)
NJTransit website explaining the proposed tunnel. Apparently this adds train capacity to all 10 lines though it may well be that only Bergen goes through the new tunnel as other trains could be routed via Secaucus or some yet-to-be built transfer.  

[ Parent ]
from the arc website (3.00 / 1)
Who will get more rail service from the ARC project?

ARC will double commuter rail capacity. This large service increase will provide more frequent trains, more express service, and for many residents, a direct (transfer-free) ride between their hometown and New York City.

The following rail lines will finally receive direct (transfer-free) service to Manhattan:

   * Main Line
   * Bergen County Line
   * Pascack Valley Line
   * Raritan Valley Line
   * Port Jervis Line
   * North Jersey Coast Line (points south of Long Branch)
   * Morristown Line (points west of Dover)
   * Boonton Line (points west of Montclair State University)

The Following rail lines will get more frequent and express service:

   * Northeast Corridor
   * North Jersey Coast Line
   * Morristown Line
   * Montclair Line
   * Gladstone Branch


[ Parent ]
How it doubles total trains ... (3.00 / 1)
from the Jersey Journal:

"The new tunnel will speed the commute between New Jersey and New York by increasing the number of NJ Transit passenger trains passing under the river during peak rush hour from 23 to 48.
NJ Transit currently has only one two-rail tunnel, which it shares with Amtrak."

There are two tunnels now; then there will be four. Double the tunnels, double the trains, plus 2 more because the new tunnel won't be shared with Amtrak, which always has the Right of Way; when Amtrak sneezes, NJTransit's schedule gets H1N1.  


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